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The end of Lightning Records... (pg. 7)
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| demons |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dumonde Trancer
haha, ive said it before and i'll say it again:
bonzai/lightining wud sell nowhere near as many records without mp3 that is a fact mate.
when was the last time u heard a bonzai tune on the radio and thought, "ill buy that"?
now think the same with mp3
case dismissed, dont bite the hand that feeds u |
pfffft. pure crap. bonzai has been going for 10 years, long before mp3 and i think that gives the authority to make judgements based on our sales figures, dont you? heh :stongue: |
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| Dumonde Trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by demons
pfffft. pure crap. bonzai has been going for 10 years, long before mp3 and i think that gives the authority to make judgements based on our sales figures, dont you? heh :stongue: |
yes i know but im making the point that mp3 would be more likely to increase sales rather than decrease... im not saying i knwo the actual sales figures, its all about sacrifcing peopel who would buy CD's for promotion thru mp3, altho beyond your control unless u go all RIAA |
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| robstar |
Oh yay!! Let's blame mp3s for all the problems in the world!!!
If u don't like mp3s and think they are ruining the industry try to come up with clever ways to compete with it.
Just don't sit on your asses and complain!
Mp3 is kinda like a "give n take" thing, it have done many great things for the industry and yes, it may have put down sales a couple of %!
But to blaim mp3 for the close down of a major record label...
No way!!!
A label that has been around for over 10 years don't go bankrupt just like that(?)! They must have had some kinda of buffer.
What happend to that?
If u run a supermarket and somebody else starts a supermarket with better products across the street that takes all your customers away from u. Do u just sit in your store and complain? :conf:
I'm just ranting...but I don't like this blaim mp3 talk.
Mp3s are here to stay! Period!!
LateRZ! |
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| Mister_Michel |
I've given some thought about this and, yes mp3's stimulate the music industry, it makes it possible for unknown artists to spread there music, unknown songs get heard by alot of people (if it wasn't for mp3's i'd probably be listening to rock/ metal, as do alot of people). It's also a great way to promote a song.
But on the other hand, it used to be
buy compilation cd-->find good songs-->buy the vinyls
Now it's download mp3-->find good songs--> buy vinyls
So eventhow we are still buying the vinyls, I think the industry DOES lose money because of the easy access to music (but it brings people into contact with new music too...)
Complicated situation IMO... |
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| torontotrance |
| oh yes....swamper's famous mp3 article....hehehehhe |
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| liquidxxd |
| i have read a lot of the responses in this article. sure mp3 can be the cause in the loss of cd sales, but surely, it has only increased vinyl sales over the past couple of years. lightning records was great, as it came out with many good artist who did great songs, but it also had a whole mess of that was not too great. signing so many artists to one label, i think, will lead to the downfall of any label. also having so many sub divisions can be harmful. for example, look at black hole, they have i dont know, maybe 5 or 6 sublabels taht i can think of (itwt, songbird, black hole avanti, and others i cant think of the name). if you take a look at lightning records, they have so many subdivisions, that sign too many different artists, it really hurt them. and as other people said earlier, lots of record companies are started by artists who probably did not get a business managment degree, resulting in bad managment, in turn leadin to signing too many people a nd pressing out too many vinyls or cds that dont even get sold. mp3 really only helped vinyl sales. a few years ago, before mp3 went big, how many of you in here ever bought a vinyl, and all you guys who put the sole blame on mp3, did you ever even buy a vinyl. yea i have bought vinyl, a lot of mine are from lightning (or a subdivision). to blame mp3 is a cheap cop-out that some of you who are just mad are using. thinka bout how much you knew about trancea few years ago. all you probably knew was pvd, tiesto and corsten. mabye if armin was releasing cds back then we would have known him too. the way i got started was buying cds, and since maxi cd isnt really available for most tracks, i would find the artists from teh cd i like and search for more songs by them on napster. i think the electronic music industry is sort of catching on to the cd maxi idea, because look at the usa music scene. not that i like rap or rock or pop, but they release cd singles and . but i guess its diffrent with trance, personally i like to have the full single of a song rather than a mixed version. i think had there been equal amounts of cdm and vinyls being put out for songs, it could have increased sales, because i know a lot of people around here would like to support the artists but have no turntables. every one has got to have a cd player in there home or a cd drive on their computer these days. if you only have a floppy, i dont know how you could put windows or whatever os you use on the computer. cd maxi is good too, because it can be preserved better than vinyls, because one scratch in the vinyl, its ed, there is no vinyl doctor, but there ways to remove scratches off of cds. and whoever says cdjing isnt real djing. lots ofpeople who dont even know how to dj say this , and it pisses me off, because djing with cds is the same as vinyls, basically. anyways, i think mp3 has helped vinyl sales, but it ed the cd sales over. it is sad that lightning records closed, but its not the end of the world. a lot of the good artists from lightning can get a contract at any record label they please i am sure. so we just have to wait and see what happens |
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| Dumonde Trancer |
swamper YKTS!
mp3 haters - shot down and demoted ;) |
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| tranceaholic |
| i bet all those who are blaming mp3's have about a 100 or so mp3s on thier hard drive..so dont be hipocrates |
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| robstar |
liquidxxd: Well put, I agree with ya!
| quote: | Originally posted by tranceaholic
i bet all those who are blaming mp3's have about a 100 or so mp3s on thier hard drive..so dont be hipocrates |
Yup! I think so too! ;) |
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| Machine Head |
| quote: | Originally posted by liquidxxd
i have read a lot of the responses in this article. sure mp3 can be the cause in the loss of cd sales, but surely, it has only increased vinyl sales over the past couple of years. lightning records was great, as it came out with many good artist who did great songs, but it also had a whole mess of that was not too great. signing so many artists to one label, i think, will lead to the downfall of any label. also having so many sub divisions can be harmful. for example, look at black hole, they have i dont know, maybe 5 or 6 sublabels taht i can think of (itwt, songbird, black hole avanti, and others i cant think of the name). if you take a look at lightning records, they have so many subdivisions, that sign too many different artists, it really hurt them. and as other people said earlier, lots of record companies are started by artists who probably did not get a business managment degree, resulting in bad managment, in turn leadin to signing too many people a nd pressing out too many vinyls or cds that dont even get sold. mp3 really only helped vinyl sales. a few years ago, before mp3 went big, how many of you in here ever bought a vinyl, and all you guys who put the sole blame on mp3, did you ever even buy a vinyl. yea i have bought vinyl, a lot of mine are from lightning (or a subdivision). to blame mp3 is a cheap cop-out that some of you who are just mad are using. thinka bout how much you knew about trancea few years ago. all you probably knew was pvd, tiesto and corsten. mabye if armin was releasing cds back then we would have known him too. the way i got started was buying cds, and since maxi cd isnt really available for most tracks, i would find the artists from teh cd i like and search for more songs by them on napster. i think the electronic music industry is sort of catching on to the cd maxi idea, because look at the usa music scene. not that i like rap or rock or pop, but they release cd singles and . but i guess its diffrent with trance, personally i like to have the full single of a song rather than a mixed version. i think had there been equal amounts of cdm and vinyls being put out for songs, it could have increased sales, because i know a lot of people around here would like to support the artists but have no turntables. every one has got to have a cd player in there home or a cd drive on their computer these days. if you only have a floppy, i dont know how you could put windows or whatever os you use on the computer. cd maxi is good too, because it can be preserved better than vinyls, because one scratch in the vinyl, its ed, there is no vinyl doctor, but there ways to remove scratches off of cds. and whoever says cdjing isnt real djing. lots ofpeople who dont even know how to dj say this , and it pisses me off, because djing with cds is the same as vinyls, basically. anyways, i think mp3 has helped vinyl sales, but it ed the cd sales over. it is sad that lightning records closed, but its not the end of the world. a lot of the good artists from lightning can get a contract at any record label they please i am sure. so we just have to wait and see what happens |
Good quote! 100% agree! |
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| rabbitjoker |
DAMN!
Bonzai was my favorite. Canada will miss them much.
What happens to the song rights? Who do they revert to? Normally assets are given to creditors - who are the creditors? What are the bankruptcy rules in Belgium? |
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