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| FASTDJMP3 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tranzlucent
... look what I started with this post. I didn't mean to start a political arguement. |
Don't say that dude , we all have the right to express freely our ideas and opinions if we do it in a peaceful and civilized way . |
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| Izzy |
> "i like this kind of debates , thank God there have been no insults no violence here." <
hey i think this is the first time i have ever seen something like this happen in this case. I guess it shows how much love us TA have to each other :) |
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| Lynx |
| quote: | Originally posted by FASTDJMP3
Don't say that dude , we all have the right to express freely our ideas and opinions if we do it in a peaceful and civilized way . |
werd. :) it's a good thing too. this exactly shows how we're truly a community on the web. |
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| FASTDJMP3 |
| Lynx dude u moved the thread , i was searching it everywhere . |
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| Paul_Van_Trance |
| quote: | Originally posted by tal_ah
first of all i would like to say to Paul_Van_Trance i respect your opnion and the way you said that. in 1920-1940 jewish people came to israel but you know the country is big enough for the both of us we did only good things to the land at first it was primitive area we develpoed the country made it modern country the only democracy in the middle east - the palestenian can enjoy that the only thing they have to do is to stop the violence and all of us will prosper. |
Many are trying to hide from the truth.. but its not good. England and Russia were behind moving the jews to the area now called Israel. And it didn't happen like u say tal_ah.. "we did good things to land".. did u just go into the land peacefully.. immigrants, and revolutionize the land? it was all done by force. invasion, backed up by Britain and Russia thru the mediterranean sea using weapons and moving many people out of their homes. I know a palestinean guy here who's parents moved out of their land in 1948 and settled in England since then. They fled with millions of others. That's how u entered the land and improved it?
The way it was done since the start is wrong. No force should have been applied. In history (me thinks) that land was occupied by both jews and christians and muslims so they should continue to live there together until this very day, but not with violence.
I have nothing more to say of this "killing jew means goin to heaven" becoz i have no clue what they think and like someone said many religions have many beliefs, but i take it to be one nation who have been forced out of their lands and others forced to live there under someone else's power when it is their own country. In that case they have every right to fight for their freedom. That's all I can say really. It would feel for someone's home to be invaded and claimed by the invadors to be their own country when they know very well its not. |
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| FASTDJMP3 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Paul_Van_Trance
Many are trying to hide from the truth.. but its not good. England and Russia were behind moving the jews to the area now called Israel. And it didn't happen like u say tal_ah.. "we did good things to land".. did u just go into the land peacefully.. immigrants, and revolutionize the land? it was all done by force. invasion, backed up by Britain and Russia thru the mediterranean sea using weapons and moving many people out of their homes. I know a palestinean guy here who's parents moved out of their land in 1948 and settled in England since then. They fled with millions of others. That's how u entered the land and improved it?
The way it was done since the start is wrong. No force should have been applied. In history (me thinks) that land was occupied by both jews and christians and muslims so they should continue to live there together until this very day, but not with violence.
I have nothing more to say of this "killing jew means goin to heaven" becoz i have no clue what they think and like someone said many religions have many beliefs, but i take it to be one nation who have been forced out of their lands and others forced to live there under someone else's power when it is their own country. In that case they have every right to fight for their freedom. That's all I can say really. It would feel for someone's home to be invaded and claimed by the invadors to be their own country when they know very well its not. |
Paul_Van_Trance Bravo !! u said the things clearly |
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| Narcotic Mind |
this is so annoying, i read all your posts, and the only thing i understanded is that thw world know .
first of all, in the 1940s, the UN decided to create a jewish country after the nazies murdered 6 million of us, so we got our little area in the middle east which historical belong to us, but that not the point.
before we created this country their was small towns of arabs living around with no orginized goverment, when we came, we created our own towns, and our on goverment, and yes they needed to obey our laws, but no, we NEVER banished them, they lived in the same way they did before only now it was called Israel. we never disturbed them and never used violence against them and even when we had wars we didn't hurted those citizens, acually, they earned free medical care and protection from our side, they could vote for choosing our prime minister (even in the last voting for the prime minister when the situation was really ed up they had the right to vote). and i really got pissed whem my mother told me (she works in the hospital) that those bastards came in the day after they lynched our soldiers to the hospital to give birth and asked for million things like nothing happened.
and no, ariel sharom doesn't want war, i don't really like him, but no, we would never choose a leader who wishes to war, perhaps he takes a more agresive acts after they blow us but not more than that.
this is a never ending war, since one of the sides doesn't want peace, and this war will never end.
acually i'm so tierd of this situation, i think i'll move to the US somewhen, i'm really sick of what's going on here. |
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| Narcotic Mind |
| and by the way, the Golan and the other areas we conquered, were conquered on wars they started, and if you don't remember we gave the the "Sinai", which is in the size of israel, back to egypt just for peace. |
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| luckystrike |
| quote: | Originally posted by Narcotic Mind
this is so annoying, i read all your posts, and the only thing i understanded is that thw world know .
first of all, in the 1940s, the UN decided to create a jewish country after the nazies murdered 6 million of us, so we got our little area in the middle east which historical belong to us, but that not the point.
before we created this country their was small towns of arabs living around with no orginized goverment, when we came, we created our own towns, and our on goverment, and yes they needed to obey our laws, but no, we NEVER banished them, they lived in the same way they did before only now it was called Israel. we never disturbed them and never used violence against them and even when we had wars we didn't hurted those citizens, acually, they earned free medical care and protection from our side, they could vote for choosing our prime minister (even in the last voting for the prime minister when the situation was really ed up they had the right to vote). and i really got pissed whem my mother told me (she works in the hospital) that those bastards came in the day after they lynched our soldiers to the hospital to give birth and asked for million things like nothing happened.
and no, ariel sharom doesn't want war, i don't really like him, but no, we would never choose a leader who wishes to war, perhaps he takes a more agresive acts after they blow us but not more than that.
this is a never ending war, since one of the sides doesn't want peace, and this war will never end.
acually i'm so tierd of this situation, i think i'll move to the US somewhen, i'm really sick of what's going on here. |
bravo!
good explenation!
well , i think leaving the country is not the solution - we need to fight the terror and wish for peace...
and BTW sinai is 3 time larger than israel... |
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| FASTDJMP3 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Narcotic Mind
this is so annoying, i read all your posts, and the only thing i understanded is that thw world know .
first of all, in the 1940s, the UN decided to create a jewish country after the nazies murdered 6 million of us, so we got our little area in the middle east which historical belong to us, but that not the point.
before we created this country their was small towns of arabs living around with no orginized goverment, when we came, we created our own towns, and our on goverment, and yes they needed to obey our laws, but no, we NEVER banished them, they lived in the same way they did before only now it was called Israel. we never disturbed them and never used violence against them and even when we had wars we didn't hurted those citizens, acually, they earned free medical care and protection from our side, they could vote for choosing our prime minister (even in the last voting for the prime minister when the situation was really ed up they had the right to vote). and i really got pissed whem my mother told me (she works in the hospital) that those bastards came in the day after they lynched our soldiers to the hospital to give birth and asked for million things like nothing happened.
and no, ariel sharom doesn't want war, i don't really like him, but no, we would never choose a leader who wishes to war, perhaps he takes a more agresive acts after they blow us but not more than that.
this is a never ending war, since one of the sides doesn't want peace, and this war will never end.
acually i'm so tierd of this situation, i think i'll move to the US somewhen, i'm really sick of what's going on here. |
Wether Sinai is 3 time or 100000 time bigger than israel , it belongs to Egypt . And yes u used violence against Arabs when u came , you kicked them ouf ot their houses , you are lying to yourself and to all ther other TA just like ur governement lied to u . Because there's a big difference between the Arabs u kicked out from their lands and the Arab treators who choosed to live with you . Go read some history books before talking , u r a shame to your so-called country ... thank God not all the israelians are like you |
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| ftnb |
come on man..dont post like this!
thank God not all the israelians are like you
...just take things constructevly man, be the more mature one....to me this thread is very strained and i think its going to snap soon. |
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| Paul_Van_Trance |
| quote: | Originally posted by FASTDJMP3
u r a shame to your so-called country ... thank God not all the israelians are like you |
wooooow cool down dood. don't let this topic affect list members here. Many stated their opinions and some were on ur views' side and some against (i am with u on this) but don't let it turn into a TA "civil war" hehe.. otherwise let's just end this thread.
Peace y'all (well.. at least here on TA hehe) |
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