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Es are bad & Fuck with ur head!! (pg. 3)
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Rememberence_
It's much easier to buy than to make. You can order it over the internet yes, or depending on where you live you can buy it over the counter.

My advise to you, and you don't have to take it, is that you have a break from it all for a long time. I think you'll know when you can take it again, responsibly. Beware though, like a couple of people have said (including me), it almost always takes a big wake-up-call slap-in-the-face type situation to get some sense into you. Treat the issue with caution and patience.
UglyDave
yeah well, like i said, this is the first time that i've actually wanted to stop takin them. I've told myself to stop before but i didn't actually want to - get me? But before last weekend, i was even considerin not takin any as i knew what lay ahead. I still went ahead and did it, paid the price for it.

the way i feel towards them now, i'd almost say i'm afraid to take them, as i just dont want to feel as as you do on a downer anymore.

So, i think i'll have a nice clean summer :)

David
mos man
dumonde_trancer did a ing beastly post before all about ecstacy, maybe someone will dig it up but i cannot be arsed :tongue2
mos man
drugs are crap and i will never take nemore
UglyDave
quote:
drugs are crap and i will never take nemore


The way i felt when i started this thread, i totally agreed with that statement. Feel a bit different now.

But about 1.5 years ago.. Oh Boy! Soo not true :)

David
mos man
heh.. that wasnt me then dave it was my girlfriend who somehow got my password and posted it

(note the writing isnt orange)

to be honest though, i like smoking pot which i do alot of and i dont think i will bother taking any other drugs again, maybe an e if i go to a really good clubbing event but thats it :clown:
DigiNut
Sothis - how much did you do, how often?

I'm just curious, I'm not trying to make any particular point 'cause I don't know 'cause I've never tried E. :p
kr00t0n
quote:
Originally posted by sothis
nice try, but, WRONG! ^_^

i religiously used 5-htp, and always have taken multivitamins and such every day as it is.

i generally would take 1-2 5-htp the morning before, 1 once i completely came down, then id sleep, wake up, take 2 more once a day for a few days.

i did everything i should have done. yes, my seratonin receptors are probably ed up. however, who's to say that doesn't happen from regular use?

the problem with E is, no one really knows. i dont know, you dont know, and any random tranceaddict doesnt know. , even the doctors dont know. so everyone can speculate about "well, it wont hurt me! because i do A B and C", but really, theres so little we know about this drug, and thats what scares me, especially since im ed up now that i used the drug for so long.

unfortunately for E users, the research is showing more and more that this drug CAN cause permanent/long term damage... not the other way around (i dont remember seeing any news articles recently about doctors thinking E *DOESNT* do damage)



I think people are also forgetting that the main contributor to how you get affected is your own mental state.

I've been taking pills for 4.5 years now, and cained it VERY heavily in 2001 (no less than 8 every w/e for 6 months), and I'm ferpectly fine.

My tolerance grew, I needed to take more to get fooked, this was uneconomical so I calmed down the usage to lessen my tolerance.

I don't take 5-htp and stuff, just live a healthy lifestyle outside of clubbing, don't smoke, hardly drink, eat healithy, exercise and take multivitimans daily.

I've never had a comedown an only experienced suicide tuesdays in the 3rd person watching some of my mates who get hit a little bit nastier after taking.

It's down to the person, if I could go back and change it, I wouldn't, drugs have had a big impact on my life, and for the better might I add, and I understand that this isn't the case with everyone, but when I hear people say stuff like "Well I do FAR too many, in circumstances when I am not mentally stable, so I should stop, and do 'legal' (thereby apparently less damaging) things like alcohol", it get's my back up a bit.

Inform, don't preach, live and let drop :D
mos man
quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Sothis - how much did you do, how often?

I'm just curious, I'm not trying to make any particular point 'cause I don't know 'cause I've never tried E. :p


1,000,000 every weekend... :p

why do u think she wanders the streets of washinton with a fake angler fish
:stongue:
sothis
quote:
Sothis - how much did you do, how often?


a hell of a lot less than most of these people talking.

for about (almost) 2 years of that 2.5 year period, 1 pill every week or every other week (combined with 5htp, precautions, etc). the last 6 months or so, 2-4 pills a weekened or every other week/few weeks. i never took more than 4, and that only happened once or twice.

quote:
if I could go back and change it, I wouldn't, drugs have had a big impact on my life, and for the better might I add


im not disagreeing with that this could be true. even tho E ed me up in the long run, it did help my life (in a weird sort of way). although i would change it if i could go back, and stop before the point that it ed me (and/or would have listened to people's advice)

quote:
Inform, don't preach, live and let drop


by the logic of what you said in your paragraph, we shouldnt tell people not to smoke because only 50% of them might get lung cancer or emphazyma. if something is known to be harmful on any level, why the hell shouldnt we preach about it? when im told "dont smoke" by an adult when im younger, it doesnt mean . when i see one of those commercials where it shows people's lungs all black, or one of my family members dies, it sure as hell will mean a lot more and i ACTUALLY might not smoke. same thing for any drug.

its not like i, or anyone else is preaching about something as asinine as needing to drink 8 glasses of water per day. we are talking about a drug that CAN cause very negative things to happen. im just not seeing your logic, at all.

DigiNut
I think that the point some people are trying to make (although they aren't wording their responses very well) is that we all know there's a small risk, much like weed or driving a car or having a surgical operation done. Some people don't like taking risks and that's fine... personally, I think if something has a .1% chance of killing someone and a 99.9% chance of improving the quality of their life then they might as well do it... but hey, that's just me, and I haven't even done it yet. :p

Anyway thanks for the info, it is helpful to know that it can hurt even people who do it responsibly.
DJ_SLAG
I love pills!
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