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the next evolutions in the human body (pg. 3)
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| moncster |
| BUT, in order to clone organs, we need research on stem cells (those magical cells that could [possibily] grow into any type of body tissue). However, those asshats in DC are completely against it because they think ALL stem cell research start with tissue from a fetus, which is not true. IIRC, there was a way of getting stem cells from grown adults, but too bad those idiots are trying to ban all forms of stemcell research :rolleyes: Oh well, not like they care, they have enough money to pay for any type of medical care, not like the rest of us, who needs cheap/reliable/permanent fixes. :mad: |
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| SuperFarStucker |
| quote: | Originally posted by N|te-L|fe
I'd say we'll be able to use our brain more effeciently, since we only use about 19% of our brain capacities right now, and we evolved being more intelligent with time..
I also think we'll have less body hair, since we went from monkeys to what we have today, chances are we'll keep loosing it more and more
Also we'll have bigger mouth to stuff more hamburgers in it and square tummies so we can put food or beer on it and it wont fall :D
Sadly enough we wont live to see those changes.. :( |
Not true, we use 100% of our brain.. only approximately 20% of it at once (sometimes more). If that was the case i could chop 4/5th's of your brain out and you'd be fine, hah lets see that one happen =) Each region of your brain serves a specific function |
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| SuperFarStucker |
| quote: | Originally posted by moncster
BUT, in order to clone organs, we need research on stem cells (those magical cells that could [possibily] grow into any type of body tissue). However, those asshats in DC are completely against it because they think ALL stem cell research start with tissue from a fetus, which is not true. IIRC, there was a way of getting stem cells from grown adults, but too bad those idiots are trying to ban all forms of stemcell research :rolleyes: Oh well, not like they care, they have enough money to pay for any type of medical care, not like the rest of us, who needs cheap/reliable/permanent fixes. :mad: |
The issue has the general populace strongly divided and politicians all on one side (the majority). Stem cell research isn't being conducted because of primarily ignorance sadly, and religious beliefs (hey, *sometimes* one in the same). |
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| N|te-L|fe |
| quote: | Originally posted by SuperFarStucker
Not true, we use 100% of our brain.. only approximately 20% of it at once (sometimes more). If that was the case i could chop 4/5th's of your brain out and you'd be fine, hah lets see that one happen =) Each region of your brain serves a specific function |
I know we use every physical part of it, what I meant was that we dont use all of its capacities..probably because we dont know how Like I'm pretty sure we'de be able to move objects and maybe fly if we would.. |
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| Orbax |
i think that we will all turn into....
ninjas |
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| NiteKiD |
| quote: | Originally posted by quddha
If you understand how evolution works, you probably won't think that will be possible.
Someone would have to have a gene that makes them not have fingernails/toenails, through mutation or maybe there is already a gene like that out there, who knows... but in order for the whole population of the earth to eventually inherit that trait, people without fingernails/toenails must have a better chance of reproducing healthy offspring than people with fingernails/toenails... which I don't see happening unless there was a virus that killed anyone who had fingernails/toenails...
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this is true...i believe humans have probably reached their peak in evolution. Theres no inherent trait which allows one type of human to be better at reproducing than another type, nor one that makes one type of human less susceptable to death than another. the only way i see ourselves evolving as a means of natural selection is if our existence is threatened on a global scale and most of us are wiped out save a few that have the traits needed to survive in the new conditions. If the traits are inherent, then offspring of the remaining will be born with them and the human race would have essentially evolved.
| quote: | Originally posted by SuperFarStucker
I'd say that we will stop making evolutionary changes as a race except for engineered ones. Over time humans will become more and more homogenous (although social classes will seperate humans for the forseeable future). Evolutionary changes can't happen when the gene pool dilutes everything so well. We reached a stasis point long ago I think. Our appearances may change slightly over the years but I believe this has more cultural influences than genetic. |
yea this guy said it well |
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| Photo_bot_2k1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mosaic
We are slowly evolving into a prettier and more attractive race, because it's a pretty ones who get laid all the time :) |
i wanna live in the gin future then |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
As far as evolution goes, we have most probably reached a turning point. First, while prettier people are getting more laid, the usage of condoms is nullifying that factor. Also, smarter people tend to get higher education and therefore get less children later in life, while the dumb ones get children as soon as they're out of the high school. Also, the institution of marriage made it certain that almost any individual will find a lifelong partner, and will therefore have as much of a chance of breeding as anybody else. Now, about the body hair, individuals with less hair are usually more attractive. But, since hairy people shave, they seem just as attractive as those without much hair. Maybe even more so, because they seem to lack more hair than naturally unhairy individuals who don't shave. Really ugly or defective individuals most likely will not procreate, but even that effect is reduced with the introduction of advanced medicine and plastic surgery.
Now, since natural evolution has been mostly halted, the only thing left to do is to improve humans in an artificial way. With the development of genetics, I'd say we're not far from manipulating individual person's genes in order to remove inherent diseases. From then on, we can go and start making actual improvements, like highten intelligence, better physical attributes, and so on. Unless of course government idiots forbid those researches as being unethical :rolleyes: . |
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| paranoik0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Photo_bot_2k1
i wanna live in the gin future then |
then you wouldn't get laid |
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| Xavier |
immunity to flu, AIDS and SARS!
btw I love cutting my finger nails. |
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| Alccode |
| quote: | Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Now, since natural evolution has been mostly halted, |
Bah human vanity! Do we dare to suppose that we have "halted" evolution or that we have "conquered" nature? That's preposterous.
Evolution is still working on us, in full force -- the only thing that is different now is that there are different factors involved (sitting in front of computers, McDonald's, etc.) -- it's not that somehow, since we have become "technologically advanced", we are magically exempt from the laws of nature.
Humans *are* part of nature, it is totally stupid to think that we can go beyond it... how can we go beyond what we truly are, the basic nature of our being?
As for modifying ourselves, I think that is a HUGE no-no. Not because of any "religious beliefs" or anything silly like that, but because it is a recipe for disaster. Again, how can we dare to suppose that we can be "better" at nature for creating or modifying life? It's easy to say on paper, "let's build a human with two hearts," and in our absolutely laughable ignorance we would think that's all there is to it -- but there are so many different factors involved, so many complications, energy patterns in our bodies, interralated systems -- putting another heart in there would be disastrous. That human would never survive long.
The solution is not to modify ourselves -- why do people think that there is something "wrong" with our bodies? Why the urge to modify them? People have to rather understand themselves, and they would then see that such thinking is unnecessary...
If genetic modification was allowed, and humans were changed drastically all over the world (it all starts slowly, removing certain genetic tendencies for certain diseases, but then always gets bigger and bigger), there will be more deformities, more dangerous and numerous illnesses, etc. Why? Because we would have introduced so many factors that would have upset the balance of our internal chemistries. I wouldn't be surprised if we became collectively extinct due to it.
So instead of worrying about living under water on Triton (which is a moon of Saturn actually -- I don't think any moon of Jupiter's has water or even ice), we should be worrying about living now. |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Alccode
Bah human vanity! Do we dare to suppose that we have "halted" evolution or that we have "conquered" nature? That's preposterous.
Evolution is still working on us, in full force -- the only thing that is different now is that there are different factors involved (sitting in front of computers, McDonald's, etc.) -- it's not that somehow, since we have become "technologically advanced", we are magically exempt from the laws of nature.
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I don't think vanity or arrogance has anything to do with it... I think that to a great extent, through medicine, technology etc... we have circumvented natural selection. Perhaps if medicine was still in the state it was a few hundred years ago, we would all be immune to the common flu, maybe even AIDS. If such epidemic were allowed to sweep the globe unhindered by human intervention, the process of natural selection would be accelerated, those more susceptible to the virus would die, allowing those with characteristics that make it harder to the virus to thrive in their bodies to survive and procreate. After a few mutations over a few thousand years you get a species immune to the virus. In fact the (partial?) circumvention of this process can be seen as the DOWNside of scientific progress.
What do you mean by computers and McDonald's... are you saying that some people aren't biologically adapted to sitting infront of a computer or eating mcdonalds... and therefore won't survive to pass on their genes?
Also, when people talk about altering our bodies through science, they probably mean in the remote future... Given the exponential naure of scientific progress, I think that by the time the earth has become unlivable (in a few milion years) due to the life-cycle of the sun we will know enough about genetic engineering to implement it on a large scale with minimal unpredicted results. |
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