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Propellerheads Reason: what I really dislike (pg. 3)
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tranzMental
quote:
Originally posted by NeoPhono
I'm a freak anyway though, I can hear TVs and CRT monitors when they're on and (don't laugh) dog whistles.


:nervous:

I can hear TVs and CRT Monitors, but Dog Whistles!??! Crazy man!
iLLicit
I've also run the test and decided to change the export settings to 96000 Hz and 24 bit. I examined the tone and there were much less fluctuations in the amplitude.

Then I rewired the output of Reason to FL Studio and exported it. With 44100 Hz, 16 bit output I did get the amplitude fluctuations, but with 96,000 Hz and 24 bit output, the fluctuations were much less noticeable.

So the solution is simple. When you want to export your song in Reason, just do it at 96,000 Hz and in 24 bit resolution!
:D
FuzzyGreen
iLLicit,

I know this has nothing to do with this thread, but I just wanted to say that your new track is great.
iLLicit
Thanx FuzzyGreen. Maybe a good idea for next time to post this in the thread itself??? :conf:

No, just kidding always nice to hear these remarks! It just makes producing music even more fun!
:)
NeoPhono
quote:
Originally posted by tranzMental
:nervous:

I can hear TVs and CRT Monitors, but Dog Whistles!??! Crazy man!


Yeah, there was a shop on my way (walking) to school that had a permanent dog whistle going to keep dogs away from its dumpsters (trash). I had to walk a block out of my way to keep away from it because it hurt my ears so much. I finally asked a guy that worked there one day what was making that noise and first he looked at me weird, and then said he it was some "dog away" whistle going.


Half the time I think my ears are ringing, but it turns out to be something going off around me.
Trancevision
quote:
Originally posted by iLLicit
I've also run the test and decided to change the export settings to 96000 Hz and 24 bit. I examined the tone and there were much less fluctuations in the amplitude.

Then I rewired the output of Reason to FL Studio and exported it. With 44100 Hz, 16 bit output I did get the amplitude fluctuations, but with 96,000 Hz and 24 bit output, the fluctuations were much less noticeable.

So the solution is simple. When you want to export your song in Reason, just do it at 96,000 Hz and in 24 bit resolution!
:D


I did this, very happy about the better looking of the amplitude in Cool Edit Pro. Then I exported the 96khz 24Bit wave in Cool Edit Pro back to 16bit 44.1Khz. The amplitude looked now like if I had just exported it from Reason, with the fluctuatuions came back

:(

Trancevision
Airbase
I am not going to say that you are wrong, but I really gotta check. Do you use the High Quality Interpolation feature activated when you do all these tests?

// Jezper
Fundamental
quote:
Originally posted by Airbase
I am not going to say that you are wrong, but I really gotta check. Do you use the High Quality Interpolation feature activated when you do all these tests?

// Jezper


That could be the reason for a difference in high frequencies. According to the Reason Manual...

"This switch turns High Quality Interpolation on and off. When it is activated, the sample pitch is calculated using a more advanced interpolation algorithm. This results in better audio quality, especially for samples with a lot of high frequency content.

High Quality Interpolation uses more computer power however - so if you don't need it, it's a good idea to turn it off! Listen to the sounds in a context and determine whether you think this setting makes any difference."
Trancevision
quote:
Originally posted by Fundamental
That could be the reason for a difference in high frequencies. According to the Reason Manual...

"This switch turns High Quality Interpolation on and off. When it is activated, the sample pitch is calculated using a more advanced interpolation algorithm. This results in better audio quality, especially for samples with a lot of high frequency content.

High Quality Interpolation uses more computer power however - so if you don't need it, it's a good idea to turn it off! Listen to the sounds in a context and determine whether you think this setting makes any difference."


actually the difference is minimal when the pitch is played at original pitch and that what we are talking here. Sample a 4 sec sample from a ferry cd (...whatever..) import into and export from Reason NN19 with HQ on and compare spectrum.
HQ Interpolation is really recognizeable when you have a sample at C4 and play it at C1. It makes a huge difference....

Trancevision
FuzzyGreen
But the software should always export wavs at the highest resolution no matter what the setting is set to. This is where a possible bug in the software may be.

Trancevision
anything new on that?



Reason still sounds the way it sounded, nothing you can do ...really gonna leave it if the props don't change quality. :rolleyes:

Trancevision
Massive84
quote:
Originally posted by Trancevision
I did this, very happy about the better looking of the amplitude in Cool Edit Pro. Then I exported the 96khz 24Bit wave in Cool Edit Pro back to 16bit 44.1Khz. The amplitude looked now like if I had just exported it from Reason, with the fluctuatuions came back

:(

Trancevision


cant you keep it at 96? and render it to mp3?
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