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PAUL VAN DYK in Chicago Sat Nov 15! (pg. 14)
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MrSquirrel
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Originally posted by Dj Spiel
Porky How did you get access upstairs? Behind the booth? Also I thought you were form Chicago not NJ?


That was lunasea posting on porky's account.

Sent me for a loop for a sec as well. :nervous:

MrS
SwissJay
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Originally posted by Porky
oh yah, ps - i got REALLY fab pics of paul behind the booth and of the crowd whilst on stage.. when i get back to NJ ill post them for you guys!

aiyayayayayaya!!!!!! :crazy:


Can't wait!!!! Hurry! :D
logikl
hey everyone,

does anyone have the tracklist for the event?? or possibly know where to find it?? i'm searching for it, but so far no luck. let me know people. thanks alot
logikl
pvd was using stanton final scratch the entire time, sorta didnt like that, cuz he didnt even pick up a record. but its the 21st century and i guess you gotta adapt, also, it's a whole lot better and easier to carry a laptop than a bunch of vinyl and cd's. final scratch is very risky, it's easy to make a mistake, and i for one, wouldn't trust a laptop(PC or MAC), cuz i can just imagine the embarassment if something jammed. regardless, it sounded great and the transitions were perfect. i believe i noticed one skip, but thats just my opinion.
sti3
quote:
Originally posted by logikl
pvd was using stanton final scratch the entire time, sorta didnt like that, cuz he didnt even pick up a record. but its the 21st century and i guess you gotta adapt, also, it's a whole lot better and easier to carry a laptop than a bunch of vinyl and cd's. final scratch is very risky, it's easy to make a mistake, and i for one, wouldn't trust a laptop(PC or MAC), cuz i can just imagine the embarassment if something jammed. regardless, it sounded great and the transitions were perfect. i believe i noticed one skip, but thats just my opinion.


Interesting, if true. Note that this is Paul van Dyk though. For what he makes in 15 minutes of DJing, he could buy the best laptop available anywhere. From what I've seen of Finalscratch, it's quite stable. Richie Hawtin played with it for a while and I never heard any reports of ups. And there are enough chances of ups with plain ol' vinyl... we've seen how crowded dancefloors can skip records at HOB...

Still, to not see him messing with vinyls--that would be a little disappointing.
LuNaSeA
hey d00ds!!

yea, sorry for the mix up, i did post and say it was daniela under chris' name but i'm sure the "aiyayayaya" threw everyone for a loop LOL..

i haven't even uploaded pics yet :( my friend adam has my USB cord, i have to get it back! :whip:

*workin on it* hehe..

regarding final scratch: lemme tell ya, it's a whole lot harder to mix with that than to mix regular records.. paul doesn't do it bc it's easier for him.. he does it bc 1> the mixing is more precise, 2> the sound quality is better 3> less chances of mistakes (ie record skipping)

:toothless
sti3
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Originally posted by LuNaSeA regarding final scratch: lemme tell ya, it's a whole lot harder to mix with that than to mix regular records.. paul doesn't do it bc it's easier for him.. he does it bc 1> the mixing is more precise, 2> the sound quality is better 3> less chances of mistakes (ie record skipping)


Sorry, but I've used it before and none of these things are true because:

1) How can it be more precise when one uses the exact same turntable and same pitch control as a turntable?
2) Many audio purists think that vinyl sounds better than CD and always will. Maybe if he's getting masters from producers as .wavs... But he's playing mp3s, and NO ONE has ever said that mp3 sounds better than vinyl, even if it's 320kbps.
3) Again, how can there be less chance of mistakes when finalscratch still relies on records? If a finalscratch record skips, the mp3 it's playing will skip too.

The only reason to use it is to save space/weight and maybe save the environment (mp3s don't take up landfill space :)). And no it's not harder to mix with it--the idea is that it's just like using a record--that's its genius!

I hope it doesn't seem like I'm jumping down your throat. I just happen to disagree with everything you said. :thepirate
Dj Spiel
Ok. For many Weeks and Months I have been hearing about final scratch. Although this is a PVD forum can someone just please Explain to me What final scratch is and what is does? Thanks!
logikl
What is FinalScratch®?

FinalScratch® is the best and only real bridge for the professional and home DJ to enter and control the digital world. By using any standard turntable/mixer setup, a DJ can now manipulate digital music the way they have always done it...by hand and by vinyl. DJs can now mix both analog records and digital files the way they have always been accustomed to and prefer.

Just load any digital audio file onto your computer, then pick and choose from your own playlist. Your computer becomes your record box. As well for the professional, save and load any production, remix, or new edit you have created and play it that very moment or take it to gig the same night without the need to cut an acetate or make test pressings.

FinalScratch® allows mixing of digital audio files, controlled with any DJ turntable. The FS10K package includes three special vinyl records, the Scratch Amp to connect the computer to your existing turntable/mixer setup, and the Final Scratch software. An FS10K system, which supports 2 turntables, includes the Final Scratch software, the Scratch amp, and 2 FS vinyl records.


The FinalScratch® software allows the user to save the audio files in various playlists, called Record Boxes, as well to search and assign the audio files to either turntable. The software provides a visual representation of the music, needle position for each audio file, and remaining time of each audio file.

The vinyl records included in the FinalScratch®, which contain digital information, are used to mix digital audio files like MP3, WAV, AIFF, and audio CD. All mixing is done directly from the turntables, including pitch shifting, cuing, spinning up and down, and even scratching. The FinalScratch® records can be used in combination with traditional analog records when mixing your set.

The Scratch Amp acts as a powerful sound card to connect all the components together to form the system. It provides 2 sets of phono inputs and outputs and 2 sets of line outputs. The Scratch Amp processes the signal from the FinalScratch® records and sends it to the computer via USB.


INFO FROM THE STANTON WEBSITE
MrSquirrel
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Originally posted by sti3
Sorry, but I've used it before and none of these things are true because:

1) How can it be more precise when one uses the exact same turntable and same pitch control as a turntable?
2) Many audio purists think that vinyl sounds better than CD and always will. Maybe if he's getting masters from producers as .wavs... But he's playing mp3s, and NO ONE has ever said that mp3 sounds better than vinyl, even if it's 320kbps.
3) Again, how can there be less chance of mistakes when finalscratch still relies on records? If a finalscratch record skips, the mp3 it's playing will skip too.

The only reason to use it is to save space/weight and maybe save the environment (mp3s don't take up landfill space :)). And no it's not harder to mix with it--the idea is that it's just like using a record--that's its genius!

I hope it doesn't seem like I'm jumping down your throat. I just happen to disagree with everything you said. :thepirate


To answer # 1 and #2 first off...the "vinyl sounding better" argument is only valid when speaking of music that was recorded in Analog form. Since most vinyl made today is just pressed using the same digitally recorded master as a CD, it is going to sound the same. Sure there will be a little color added because of imperfections in the vinyl but it is not an analog recording to begin with so the point is moot.

#2 answer can be correlated to the vnyl using the same digitally recorded master as the CD. Since final scrath can use the uncompressed audio files (AIFF is a file format that supports the 16bit, 44.100kHz, pcM encoding) it would be just like listening to a cd. You can easily pull tracks direct from a cd without encoding them as anything else, they just take up more space than mp3's. Since that powerbook Paul was using has at least a 40GB hard drive he could probably have several hundred tracks in there at the CD quality level or higher.

Hope that made sense...

MrS

arturob
haha mp3s my ass. paul requests 16-bit master waves and aiff files from the producers and label to put on his mac.

all the best,

arturo
PhloTron
ahh yes...there was one skip...i remember it...we noticed, he noticed, we laughed he *shruged* and laughed...tune kept on bangin...

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