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| Dmatrox |
Just pondering. Since im sick with a ing cold and 90% of people in my class are too i was pondering something. Since the cold virus (one strain is rhinovirus i think) spreads very quickly in public environments like schools and offices, is it possible to incorporate the cold virus and AIDS virus DNA together so that AIDS can be spread through an air medium instead of direct contact?
I was thinking of this in lecture today. What if it were possible for the cold virus to mutate some how (dont know how) and incorporate a deadly disease's DNA into its own (like the borg:p ) and become airborne and spread throughout a human population and, if a person contracts the disease they wont show it. (kinda like aids).
oh btw, any ideas how to get rid of colds? i dont get sick often. |
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| Orbax |
| get drunk, the alcohol will kill the germs before it kills you |
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| Dmatrox |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
get drunk, the alcohol will kill the germs before it kills you |
are you serious or are you missing your alcohol? :p |
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| Orbax |
| serious, ive killed up to an including 103 degree fevers by getting smashed |
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| Dmatrox |
40% vodka should do it eh?
do you have any thoughts on the topic orbax? |
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| Mebot |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dmatrox
Just pondering. Since im sick with a ing cold and 90% of people in my class are too i was pondering something. Since the cold virus (one strain is rhinovirus i think) spreads very quickly in public environments like schools and offices, is it possible to incorporate the cold virus and AIDS virus DNA together so that AIDS can be spread through an air medium instead of direct contact?
I was thinking of this in lecture today. What if it were possible for the cold virus to mutate some how (dont know how) and incorporate a deadly disease's DNA into its own (like the borg:p ) and become airborne and spread throughout a human population and, if a person contracts the disease they wont show it. (kinda like aids).
oh btw, any ideas how to get rid of colds? i dont get sick often. |
Reminds me of Stephen King's The Stand. America is decimated by a superflu that is 99% communicable and 99% fatal. Great book but ive yet to see the miniseries..
Starve a fever feed a cold is the old saying..so just drink a lot of fluids. (either OJ which is high in vitamin C...or Rum or vodka which is high in ethyl alcohol :D ) |
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| St_Andrew |
| there is medicines for HIV so it's not a very big problem.... but just think of a new disease that is deadly and spread with the wind? :S scary... |
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| Nosmo |
I heard you could get aids from riding a tractor in a bikini, or is that gonorrhea?
/Yes. I know I'm lame./ |
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| hangover |
whiskey should do the trick
i was sick too earlier this week too
all i did was took a sick day from work and slept the entire day
i was feeling much better the next day, so don't underestimate sleep
about the topic, that's just sick (pun intended) j/k
but what exactly are you trying to accomplish here? there were already epidemics in the past that killed off alot of ppl until a cure was found
anyway what you are suggesting is probably very far away from the current genetic engineering capabilities, let alone the fact that very little is known about virii in general
i'm tired and drunk so don't mind me
i'll just go :crazy: now |
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| hangover |
| quote: | Originally posted by St_Andrew
there is medicines for HIV so it's not a very big problem.... |
:wtf: |
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| Dmatrox |
| quote: | Originally posted by St_Andrew
there is medicines for HIV so it's not a very big problem.... but just think of a new disease that is deadly and spread with the wind? :S scary... |
medicine for HIV? AIDS? :conf:
diseases do spread through wind, its called "air bourne"
| quote: | | but what exactly are you trying to accomplish here? there were already epidemics in the past that killed off alot of ppl until a cure was found |
Just speculation. I dont think there is a cure for SARS yet, only containment. Also if i can remember correctly, SARS doesnt infect 100% of people it comes in contact with.
If you had a Rhinovirus/AIDS virus, wouldnt that be almost 100% infection and no cure? |
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| montie |
well thats pretty unlikely that HIV would mutate into the same transport medium of a cold virus.
the HIV virus is very fragile outside of the body. when outside of the body it decomposes very quickly. compared to many other virus it is quite difficult to contract.
the cold virus on the other hand has a much stronger capsid making it capable of floating thru air for quite a long time. it makes sense that evolution made this possible because the cold virus attacks the sinus (i think) so its best means for coming incontact with cells to attack would be through respiration.
the HIV virus on the other hand needs to come into contact with blood that contains t4 white blood cells. thus evolution has progressed in such a way for hiv that it will be most contagius when a new host comes incontact with contaminated blood or other bodily fluids.
also virus' have special receptors which bind almost exclusivly to the cells that they attack.
the cold virus has receptors which bind to cells in the sinus (i think). the HIV virus has receptors which bind to T4 white blood cells. the HIV virus is likely to get flushed out by mucous and other agents in the nose which keep foreign agents out (i could be wrong, but i'm pretty sure t4 white blood cells don't hang out in the nose, they are activated by another form of T cells which tell them to kill a certain type of virus in the blood which was memorized by the immune system)
so there wouldn't be many t4 white blood cells to bind to, so thus that wouldn't be to great of a means of transmission for HIV. |
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