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Something to consider... all you X users - (pg. 8)
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| DJ-Fuq |
| quote: | Originally posted by Summer21
I find it so sad how people get SO damn defensive when propositioned with any negativity in reguards to E. |
Whos doing that? I myself have posted links that explain the damage e does.
| quote: | I myself have delved into the world of E, loved it at first... and then found myself living out exactlty what my boyfriend had warned me about, I was in a dream world for 2 months, pushing friends,family and my boyfriend away testing all the limits of love that these people had for me.
I understand why people defend E ( or any other drug) I too was defensive when I was under its control. But now that (thank goodness)I have woken from the weird zombie-like state I look at it so differently. |
U too? For ur info, i havnt taken e in 2 years.
And under its control? :conf:
| quote: | I AM NOT a prude, i have dropped again since, but this time it was different, the night wasnt about dropping, I was enjoying my friends and music...and with my old self back the night was completely different and more enjoyable.
I will never abuse E again, |
Well, u said it urself. U ABUSED it. What ur saying doesnt really make sense. U are the 1 at fault here, not the drug.
| quote: | | nor do I ever want to let something grab hold of me and control me. And as much as someone will indefinitely respond with " I dont let E control me, I have fun and use it resposibly, and it has only enlightened my life BLAH BLAH".... I am not putting any of you down, I just want everyone to take drugs for what they are. Don't ever underestimate them or their power. |
People who arent prepared to use drugs responsibly should not be using them at all. |
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| jdjd |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
That came from about 5 years of research, discussion and experience. Theres not much point in u arguing with me about this, because u wont win. U cant win. Thats because im right and ur wrong, simple as that. Ive been through this enough times with people and anything u can say, ive heard it before. I know all the angles, all the trickery etc that u prohibitionists usually come up with. U might as well go and do a bit of reading up on these researchers, and learn about who they are, who appointed them, where they came from etc. I suggest u start with the legendary gabriel nahas.
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I smell pure bull. If you are telling the truth, then you don't need all that education to realize that these drugs have serious side effects, you can see that with your own eyes.
And to what gain does the government have to gain by putting out these studies, Professor? Only reason I can think of is that these drugs cost them money policing them, and that they reduce the country's quality-of-life. But that just implies what you are denying, the seriously negative health effects. |
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| DJ-Fuq |
| quote: | Originally posted by jdjd
I smell pure bull. |
Ugh, so do i. U might wanna try using mouthwash for that or something.
| quote: | | If you are telling the truth, then you don't need all that education to realize that these drugs have serious side effects, you can see that with your own eyes. |
What, like cannabis making people turn into murderers, white women sleep with black men :eek:, mdma putting holes in ur brain, lsd making u jump out windows or cut ur dick off etc?
| quote: | | And to what gain does the government have to gain by putting out these studies, Professor? |
Sigh.. Thats a complex 1. There are just too many reasons for me to bother explaining it all. I wrote a whole 5 a4 pages essay on this a couple of years ago for my english gcse coursework in school. Racism was a big part of it in the early days. They started cracking down on different drugs to piss off/control in various ways different cultures. Cannabis for the mexicans and black jazz musicians (they said cannabis influenced this 'evil jazz music'), cocaine for the asians flooding the workplace (iirc, its been a while since i went over all this) etc. It just got progressivly worse from there. Do a google search for harry anslinger (theres PLENTY of info on that wanker) and reefer madness.
More recently, reasons include not wanting to 'rock the boat' for, or in some cases put out of business pharmaceutical companies, tobacco and alcohol companies (budweiser apparently 'donate' a lot of money towards the war on (some) drugs), textile companies, paper companies etc. People would lose a LOT of money if legalisation happened, because illegal drugs could replace so many things and do their jobs even better. But the main reasons, like i said earlier, are political. Because so many people now are so convinced by the bs, its not exactly easy for any government to turn round and say to the public that theyve been lied to for so long. Because of the huge amount of this bs, and how long its been going on, they know how many people wouldnt believe them, just like u dont believe me, and they would lose many votes. They would lose global support basically. And that means from companies, countries, other parties and governments, organisations etc. So it would be political suicide.
| quote: | | Only reason I can think of is that these drugs cost them money policing them, and that they reduce the country's quality-of-life. But that just implies what you are denying, the seriously negative health effects. |
These effects are usually greatly exaggerated, for the above reasons. I can tell u that u take more risks going about ur normal daily life than almost all drug users do taking drugs. |
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| mto |
| drugs. Never did any, and never will. |
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| DJ-Fuq |
| quote: | Originally posted by mto
drugs. Never did any, and never will. |
Like u havnt. Everyone has taken drugs. |
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| mto |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
Like u havnt. Everyone has taken drugs. |
I never consumed any type of drugs in my life. Weed, X, Speed, Shrooms.. nothing. It never attracted me. I also never hung around the people who did any of that stuff, and I still don't. |
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| DJ-Fuq |
| quote: | Originally posted by mto
I never consumed any type of drugs in my life. Weed, X, Speed, Shrooms.. nothing. It never attracted me. I also never hung around the people who did any of that stuff, and I still don't. |
Dont u know that alcohol and nicotine are drugs, just like any other drugs? If u dont, then dont even bother talking about drugs, because u havnt got a clue.
What about chocolate? U know thats a drug? Ever ate any? U ever drink coke, tea or coffee? Do u know that they all contain an addictive drug? Ever taken a painkiller or medication? Theyre drugs too. |
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| djSlain |
why are the police trying to stop raves? its not because of anything EXCEPT for the fact that people want to keep doing drugs. MY RIGHT TO GO PARTYING is now in jeopardy because of something i don't even do. The government has to change for you? it all has to revolve around people who don't know how to appreaciate a smile and find solace , and eventualy will never do with all the muscles deteriorated. I cant go partying because YOU idiots want to go "ooooooo" "look at the colors" "purple is a fruit". forget it. if these electronic get togethers are going to be illegal, i'll be ing glad that our scene will go back to the music and not the requirement of being some dumb drugged up raver
when does american idol part 3 start showing? |
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| mto |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
Dont u know that alcohol and nicotine are drugs, just like any other drugs? If u dont, then dont even bother talking about drugs, because u havnt got a clue.
What about chocolate? U know thats a drug? Ever ate any? U ever drink coke, tea or coffee? Do u know that they all contain an addictive drug? Ever taken a painkiller or medication? Theyre drugs too. |
We're talking about illegal drugs. But now you're gonna contradict that one too by saying that marijuana is legel in some countries/states. |
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| zarathustra |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
Like u havnt. Everyone has taken drugs. |
I think he is referring to drugs which are currently prohibited by law. |
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| mto |
| quote: | Originally posted by zarathustra
I think he is referring to drugs which are currently prohibited by law. |
I was. |
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| djSlain |
| alcohol? when was the last time u saw Tom Brokaw talking about alchohol in the rave scene. it's always been about ectstasy |
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