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| KLINGKLANG77 |
| quote: | Originally posted by daffodil
give up that television news, it's a filthy and moronic habit ;) do something intelligent... READ! |
i agree with you completely. BUUUUTTT the bbc news is really good. the version that is shown in america on public television. i think channel 13 and 21 at 6 and 7 pm respectively (ny public tv). i think, but i havent been there in 4 months so i could be wrong. i think that is the best news programme in america.
reading is your best option. if you can read or at least understand another language check out those papers, they say more then any other american newspaper. if not the bbc has an online site and i find them pretty informative. i just find all the american news so tainted... |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by amdmaxx
CNN is owned by Arabs, therefroe they r biased. I watch Fox news instead...
I am 14, since u r interested... |
Idiot should be your name..
Thats what you made youself look out to be in this one simple response...
First off... you state your age..14...AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHAHAH
Second, CNN is owned by Ted Turner...he is not an Arab
Third.. if you watch Fox news to getyour info, a netword that is laughed at throughout the world for its ridiculous coverage of Britney spears over genocides/wars.....then you need to seriously start rethinking your news gathering....FOX NEWS...AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHA
But i understand... you are 14... |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by KLINGKLANG77
i agree with you completely. BUUUUTTT the bbc news is really good. the version that is shown in america on public television. i think channel 13 and 21 at 6 and 7 pm respectively (ny public tv). i think, but i havent been there in 4 months so i could be wrong. i think that is the best news programme in america.
reading is your best option. if you can read or at least understand another language check out those papers, they say more then any other american newspaper. if not the bbc has an online site and i find them pretty informative. i just find all the american news so tainted... |
I read the BBC and reuters almost religiously, however, even with them I've detected somewhat biased and misinformative articles (I even sent a bitchy email to reuters complaining one time) at times as well. Ultimately, I would avoid finding a source that is the "perfect" median because there is simply no such thing. As Jane said one is probably better off reading multiple sources. Not just any multiple sources but sources that cover both sides of the spectrum. For example, read Fox news (yes Fox news) but then read the independant or the guardian (good independant/liberal papers) as well. Read the BBC/Reuters, but then read CNN or the economist (an excellent paper with a slight conservative slant). The idea is to get multiple perspectives since there are only so many journalists and what one may experience/ write about could be quite different than what another journalist may experience/write about. Compound this with the journalist's personal bias along with whatever bias/slant the news organization may have and there are potentially a lot of unknowns. Therefore, although you may disagree Fox New's/CNNs/BBCs/whatever slant, at least you are getting a wider perspective of the truth which likely lays somewhere in between by reading all of them.
Oh, btw ... the one source that I have found to be the absolute best with respect to "fair and balanced" coverage is neither print nor tv ... it's radio. NPR is excellent if you ever care to check it out. |
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| anuneventrade |
Another moved thread. :rolleyes:
Ian, I'm going to kick you for this. |
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| SOLO-D1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
I read the BBC and reuters almost religiously, however, even with them I've detected somewhat biased and misinformative articles. |
^^^ True BBC news is also biased, I have not run accross a news agency that it not somewhat biased though. |
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| Trancer-X |
| quote: | Originally posted by anuneventrade
Another moved thread. :rolleyes:
Ian, I'm going to kick you for this. |
Seeing what became of this thread, I agree w/ Ian! |
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| SOLO-D1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
Idiot should be your name..
Thats what you made youself look out to be in this one simple response...
First off... you state your age..14...AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHAHAH
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Why is a 14 yr old getting you so worked up then?? Everyone has opinions... |
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| anuneventrade |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancer-X
Seeing what became of this thread, I agree w/ Ian! |
*scowl* We have five of these threads already. |
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| Trancer-X |
| quote: | Originally posted by anuneventrade
*scowl* We have five of these threads already. |
I know, I know... but it's big (Political Discussion / Debate) news!
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| DrummeRaver86 |
| stop talking about news being baised. goddamnit, this is the same BS over and over!!!:whip: :whip: :whip: |
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| amdmaxx |
I am probably old enough to be your father, in reality and I am not 14...
Anyways, here is proof of CNN biasing...
http://www.jewishpost.com/jp0612/jpn0612j.htm
CNN Bias on Display
by Andrea Levin
CNN got clobbered recently by a deluge of angry e-mail about its detaching Jerusalem from Israel in a weather page on the heavily trafficked CNN.com website. All other cities were listed with their respective countries. CNN separated Jerusalem from Israel in March after criticism by Arab American activist Ali Abunimah and reattached them in August in the wake of an escalating outcry from defenders of Israel.
Jerusalem was restored, however, with an asterisk whose footnote states: "The status of Jerusalem, the seat of Israeli government, is the most contentious issue in the Israeli-Palestinian peace talks. Palestinian and Arab leaders consider part of Jerusalem the capital of a prospective Palestinian state." In no other case where a city's sovereignty is contested, such as Lhasa, Taipei or Jammu, does CNN qualify the national affiliation with a political notation. (Their respective listings are Lhasa, China; Taipei, Taiwan; and Jammu, India).
A similar sequence of events had occurred earlier when the group, American Muslims for Jerusalem, denounced CNN for referring to Jerusalem as Israel's capital on another web page. An October 19, 1999 e-mail to AMJ adherents urged they write to CNN demanding the removal of "any reference to Jerusalem as Israel's capital from their website." The very same day AMJ Executive Director Khalid Turaani boasted in a follow-up e-mail about CNN's "quick response to the community" when network officials capitulated, striking out reference to Jerusalem as Israel's capital in a millennium-related web page. AMJ exulted that their campaign had "lasted just three hours."
It took a month to restore the reference to Jerusalem on that page, and, once again, the correction came with a qualifier. The CNN web page stated that Jerusalem is "the seat of blatant error, claiming harsh Israeli policies have led to a 'dwindling' of the Arab population of Jerusalem, the network stonewalled for a year before issuing a retraction. Volumes of data and evidence provided to CNN demonstrating the dramatic growth of that population availed nothing. Only under the duress of extended public pressure, including ads in newspapers such as the New York Times exposing the absurdity of the statement, did the network broadcast a correction and an accurate report.
The same CNN penchant for espousing Arab views can be seen even now on the network's website. A feature entitled 'The Struggle for Middle East Peace' includes a timeline filled with biased, if frequently moronic, statements about the history of the region. The overarching distortion is the deleting of Arab aggression against the Jews. Events in 1929, for example, when anti-Jewish rioting was fomented by Arab leaders and led to the murder of scores of Jews throughout Palestine, especially in Hebron, are glossed by CNN as entailing 'a dispute at the Wailing Wall' which 'ignited an Arab riot and call for Islamic Jihad. Consequently, News began arming themselves and both sides waged terrorist attacks." Likewise, the sole reference to the bloody record of PLO terrorism in the 1970's is a line about the killing of Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics. Unmentioned is the PLO-sponsored murder three months earlier of 27 civilians at Israel's Lod airport. The heinous Palestinian terrorist attack in 1974 on an Israeli elementary school and the slaughter of 22 children is similarly omitted, as is the 1978 PLO hijacking of a bus on the Tel Aviv Haifa Road. That killing spree took 34 lives.
Amazingly, even the unprecedented series of bus bombings in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv in the 1990s are also censored out. Yet CNN gives separate mention (with a photograph) to victims of Baruch Goldstein's killing of Muslim worshipers in Hebron in 1994. Thus is the record blurred to obscure the fearsome campaigns of terrorism by Palestinians against Jews, while singling out the lone act on a similar scale of Jewish violence against innocent Arabs.
The same deferential distortions are accorded Yasir Arafat in a biographical article in the "Struggle for Peace" section. As though echoing the career of Dr. Martin Luther King, CNN describes Arafat repeatedly as pursuing the "dream" of a Palestinian state. "That dream," writes CNN, "sustained him during his years as a guerilla fighter with a pistol on his hip, and it has guided him through his leadership of the Palestine Liberation Organization."
Here too only sanitized mention is made of Arafat's bloodstained past - his organization, Al Fatah, is said to have launched "guerilla raids and terrorist attacks into Israel." CNN labors especially hard to find oblique phrasing for Arafat's role in the 1972 Munich massacre, writing that Arafat "came to be regarded as a villain for his suspected involvement in the murder of Israeli athletes by the Black September Arab terrorists..."
No doubt if CNN.com carried an honest and accurate biography of Arafat and a truthful timeline chronicling the record of Arab aggression and violence, there would be a new deluge of Arab complaint. Probably CNN reporters fear being denied access to Palestinian officials, and perhaps the network seeks to open new bureaus in the Arab world and so prefers to avoid offending future customers. Whatever the cause, the propensity at CNN for advocating Arab views over journalistic objectivity and factual accuracy, and only reluctantly and belatedly making adjustments when challenged on the facts, is professionally derelict - and disgraceful.
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
Idiot should be your name..
Thats what you made youself look out to be in this one simple response...
First off... you state your age..14...AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHAHAH
Second, CNN is owned by Ted Turner...he is not an Arab
Third.. if you watch Fox news to getyour info, a netword that is laughed at throughout the world for its ridiculous coverage of Britney spears over genocides/wars.....then you need to seriously start rethinking your news gathering....FOX NEWS...AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHA
But i understand... you are 14... |
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| amdmaxx |
http://www.chronwatch.com/editorial/2002-06-19mrq.asp
Marc Rauch: Quick Comments: Israeli Fencing and CNN's bias
by Marc Rauch
June 19, 2002
Israel's West Bank (De)Fence is One More Example of Zionist Cruelty
Is there no end to Zionist oppression and aggression? It was so easy for the Palestinian Arabs to be able to cross into Israel and kill a few Jews whenever they felt the religious or financial need. Sure, the "Palestinian" bombers usually died in the attack, but at least they were able to carry out the missions and earn some big bucks for their families (in any event, such death is an express ticket to the great celestial-virgin brothel in the sky). After the construction of the de-fence-ive wall it's going to be much more difficult. This means that the poor, deprived "Palestinians" will have to resort to more expensive and troublesome methods to carry out Allah's will.
If the Jews had any compassion for their fellow desert dwellers they would have simplified the process, not complicated it. The money received from Saudi Arabia and Iraq for killing Jews is a prime source of "Palestinian" revenue. Diminished opportunities will only result in the further loss of income for families that can ill-afford it. Moreover, if the Israelis really were a sympathetic people they would be stationing Arab-driven taxis at border checkpoints to take the heroic-fighters to their intended targets, and ask the United States to pick-up the tab for the taxi trips. But no, the U.S. will just keep throwing away their money on aid and loans to Israel, and ignore the impoverished Arab cab drivers. And Israel will once again turn a blind-eye on the plight of the "Palestinians." It's the old story of The Man keeping the people down.
Perhaps we could get UC Berkeley to divest themselves of any involvement with fencing companies?
CNN: Give them 22 minutes and they give AWAY the world
I don't get CNN's anti-Israel bias. I mean I understand that there are a hundred times more Muslims than there are Jews in the world (which makes for a potentially far greater viewing universe), but at what point does propriety and common sense enter their broadcasting mien? They, the inmates that run the CNN asylum, may wish to think of themselves as purveyors of news to the world, but don't they also have families and friends whose live are at risk from the expansion of terrorism and denial of essential truths? Don't they recognize that the very right of Free Speech is threatened by allowing misinformation to dominate the news media?
The other night, on Aaron Brown's show, CNN did a story called "Divide and Conquer." It concerned Israel's efforts to protect its citizens through the use of various geographic containment measures. Brown introduced it by saying that the point of the story is not whether there's justification for the actions, or if it's right or wrong, but how it's affecting the "Palestinian" people. Well why wasn't "justification" the point of the story? Why wasn't "right and wrong" an important part of their story? Without focusing on the moral issue, there was no legitimate story. Just as there would have been no story to tell regarding the "suffering" German citizens in Nazi Germany during the war, there was no story here.
CNN portrayed the Palestinian Arabs as innocent victims of Israeli oppression. But the "Palestinians" are not innocent victims; they are armed combatants and willful supporters of terrorism. A recent poll showed that 70% of Palestinian Arabs agree with the suicide bombing of Israel. By presenting the story in the manner they did it expresses an unjust prejudice against Israel for defending itself. The "Palestinians" are reaping what they have sown. That's the story that the news media should be telling and re-telling. |
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