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| DJDigDug |
| quote: | Originally posted by VaNFeCto
I dont know if any of u remember some of my post from when I was a bit younger to the boards and younger in age and musical development AND MATURITY as well, but I used to be pretty outspoken about my preference of uplifting over prog. Now though it seems as if all I listen to is prog, I mean I can't get enough of it. To be quite honest I dont understand it either, one theory is that uplifting has been on a decline as far as quality productions and the other is musical evolvment, and I remember one person who's name escapes me at the moment said this would happend and I said he was crazy, and now Im wondering did anyone else do the same thing? |
virtually everyone does it, Epic trance is cool at first, but as you change, you start to find more originality in the genres outside of epic, and soon those hoover synths become all to familiar and eventually boring, then prog takes over, GOA is also really wicked awsome, finally youll likely come to a point where you dont care what genre the song is, you will get restless of people always praising epic song of moment cause you probably wont like it, and you will frequent the forums a lil bit less :toothless, but in the long run good trance will always rock any genre of it, however i feel ya on the prog angle i used to buy epic records and what not, now all i got in my carts is prog and techno lolz, a crazy blend, as well as a few breaks, of course i will always blend in some epic and melodic stuff as well, recently i got a Goa compilation called guitars on mushrooms that i love, and for probably the best album of all time, check out airdrawndagger if you havent already, great album from start to finish, ending with one of my all time favorite songs, anyway I would probably say your taste in music is a quite normal path most people follow, heh unfortunately they lose interest in posting sometimes because of it heh. |
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| starglider |
In a sense I typify the progression of which you speak, and in a sense I do not. When I first started listening to EDM (not too long ago, maybe 3 years tops) I liked fairly commercial trance with obvious melodies and I couldn't get into anything even approaching progressive. Eventually something clicked and I started to enjoy it more and more. Then I helped get some of my friends into it too, and I didn't stop there -- I started to get into techno, breaks, ambient, what have you.
However where I'm different is because I still like almost everything I have ever liked. It has not been a progression so much as an expansion, and I'm glad of it. Glad because I can connect with a large number of people. I can go from raving about the latest big tune played on ASOT to discussing the finer points of progressive house and I don't feel restricted. Music becomes part of me and I cannot turn my back on it so easily. |
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| VaNFeCto |
| quote: | Originally posted by jdjd
what is l33t? |
short for elite, peeps who think theyre better than you for any reason, more specifically prog elitist who think theyre better than you because they listen to progressive. |
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| elena |
everyone loves prog, right? :tongue2
i dont think it has to do with maturity but rather more exposure to a growing trend. if you keep on hearing tracks of a particular genre, youre bound to be a little more open about it. then what do you know? you start actually liking it. of course this is a huge generalization though. |
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| VaNFeCto |
| quote: | Originally posted by starglider
In a sense I typify the progression of which you speak, and in a sense I do not. When I first started listening to EDM (not too long ago, maybe 3 years tops) I liked fairly commercial trance with obvious melodies and I couldn't get into anything even approaching progressive. Eventually something clicked and I started to enjoy it more and more. Then I helped get some of my friends into it too, and I didn't stop there -- I started to get into techno, breaks, ambient, what have you.
However where I'm different is because I still like almost everything I have ever liked. It has not been a progression so much as an expansion, and I'm glad of it. Glad because I can connect with a large number of people. I can go from raving about the latest big tune played on ASOT to discussing the finer points of progressive house and I don't feel restricted. Music becomes part of me and I cannot turn my back on it so easily. |
I still like uplifting but nothing for the past 4 months has been catching my ears, I mean Ive been bangin straight prog. |
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| Cobalt |
Just about everyone has their progressive phase. I did. I think the more important question is whether you return from it or not.
After I fell in love with anthem trance around '99, I became a big progressive trance fan; I still am. Sadly, Sasha, Warren, Seaman, and the rest of the masters abandoned the genre around the same time, 2000-01, in favor of progressive house. But I was mainly digging through their work from 2000 and before, so it didn't really affect me (I didn't have access to cutting edge developments in the scene since I couldn't go to clubs and wasn't on TA or any other forum).
In 2001, bored with all the thoughtful progressions and hypnotic melodies, I moved back to uplifting and anthem trance again, a period which lasted until nearly the end of that year. This phase was fueled mainly by Paul van Dyk and Tiesto, and cemented the two as lasting favorites of mine.
But I grew disillusioned. I then encountered what I feel was my progressive phase, which lasted until the spring of 2002. By then I'd caught up with the rejection of trance in the British mainstream, and decided to see where my favorites of Sasha et al. had headed. During that time I dove into Digweed's work, discovering Bedrock, GU: Hong Kong, and GU: Los Angeles. I bought into the elitism, and felt that this was, perhaps, artistically superior to trance.
But I became tired and bored of progressive, and eventually went back to trance. Marco V kick-started this return, also becoming one of my favorites, and I became enthusiastic of trance with a slightly harder edge. I'd visited TrancEaddict and observed its forum for a long time, but it was only around this time that I actually signed up. It took that much time until I felt I was knowledgable enough to post anything worthwhile.
Maybe the progressive shift took a bit of time to filter down to newer trancers, meaning those who hopped on after the 1999 anthem explosion, but in late 2002 there was a massive insurgency of progheads on the trancEaddict board. Threads were hijacked on a weekly basis, exploding into prog vs trance flames. I'm sure many remember, but I'm just restating this for people who weren't around. I saw my own progressive phase mirrored on a massive scale in those who constantly went on about how "mature" and "intelligent" progressive house was compared to trance. And, in part, they're right; progressive focuses on the progression. But that doesn't mean one should reject anthem trance, which also has its place. Only instead of leveling off and finding that both genres are different and thus have different parts to play, many of these "progheads" went off the deep end with their egos, going deeper and deeper. The "deeper" the progressive they listened to, the "cooler" they were. It was all rather ridiculous. Thankfully the flames eventually died down.
As long as you don't end up like one of those sad individuals, so wrapped up in the attitude of what they're listening to not realize that it's just the same drum loop for eight minutes, and respect that trance has its own agenda, often different from that of prog, you should be fine.
And my next phase? Tech-trance. |
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| Floorfiller |
i think that people seem to fall into liking prog more with the amount of time that they listen to electronic music in general because the longer they listen...the easier it is for them to appreciate different types of music.
i would have to say that i like all the different types...as long as its good...and i think that most people who have been listening to the genre for a while would agree with me on that... |
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| Cobalt |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
i think that people seem to fall into liking prog more with the amount of time that they listen to electronic music in general because the longer they listen...the easier it is for them to appreciate different types of music. |
I think this is mainly due to the increased ability to appreciate subtle progression. Trance is very repetitive by, say, pop standards, but often acts as a stepping stone for people who can't immediately appreciate progressive or techno, which are even more difficult to listen to when coming from the mainstream. Thus, when people make this jump, they feel they've made some intellectual breakthrough that makes progressive special and better than everything else. That's just hubris. Progressive is different from trance, but whether it is better is arguable, for many different reasons. |
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| Denser |
Starting with trance and moving on to prog will happen eventually as u seek more than jus a peak in ur music...only thing that is variable is when the shift occurs.
Try Fire & Ice - Para Siempre,if dont feel like listening to it again,then sorry mate...trance has yet again lost one more worthy son to prog ! |
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| jdjd |
| quote: | Originally posted by VaNFeCto
I still like uplifting but nothing for the past 4 months has been catching my ears, I mean Ive been bangin straight prog. |
Castaneda - Floor Control
Miro - By Your Side (Ronski Speed 2003 Remix)
Jose Amnesia - The Eternal (Nu-Nrg Mix) |
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| VaNFeCto |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cobalt
Just about everyone has their progressive phase. I did. I think the more important question is whether you return from it or not.
After I fell in love with anthem trance around '99, I became a big progressive trance fan; I still am. Sadly, Sasha, Warren, Seaman, and the rest of the masters abandoned the genre around the same time, 2000-01, in favor of progressive house. But I was mainly digging through their work from 2000 and before, so it didn't really affect me (I didn't have access to cutting edge developments in the scene since I couldn't go to clubs and wasn't on TA or any other forum).
In 2001, bored with all the thoughtful progressions and hypnotic melodies, I moved back to uplifting and anthem trance again, a period which lasted until nearly the end of that year. This phase was fueled mainly by Paul van Dyk and Tiesto, and cemented the two as lasting favorites of mine.
But I grew disillusioned. I then encountered what I feel was my progressive phase, which lasted until the spring of 2002. By then I'd caught up with the rejection of trance in the British mainstream, and decided to see where my favorites of Sasha et al. had headed. During that time I dove into Digweed's work, discovering Bedrock, GU: Hong Kong, and GU: Los Angeles. I bought into the elitism, and felt that this was, perhaps, artistically superior to trance.
But I became tired and bored of progressive, and eventually went back to trance. Marco V kick-started this return, also becoming one of my favorites, and I became enthusiastic of trance with a slightly harder edge. I'd visited TrancEaddict and observed its forum for a long time, but it was only around this time that I actually signed up. It took that much time until I felt I was knowledgable enough to post anything worthwhile.
Maybe the progressive shift took a bit of time to filter down to newer trancers, meaning those who hopped on after the 1999 anthem explosion, but in late 2002 there was a massive insurgency of progheads on the trancEaddict board. Threads were hijacked on a weekly basis, exploding into prog vs trance flames. I'm sure many remember, but I'm just restating this for people who weren't around. I saw my own progressive phase mirrored on a massive scale in those who constantly went on about how "mature" and "intelligent" progressive house was compared to trance. And, in part, they're right; progressive focuses on the progression. But that doesn't mean one should reject anthem trance, which also has its place. Only instead of leveling off and finding that both genres are different and thus have different parts to play, many of these "progheads" went off the deep end with their egos, going deeper and deeper. The "deeper" the progressive they listened to, the "cooler" they were. It was all rather ridiculous. Thankfully the flames eventually died down.
As long as you don't end up like one of those sad individuals, so wrapped up in the attitude of what they're listening to not realize that it's just the same drum loop for eight minutes, and respect that trance has its own agenda, often different from that of prog, you should be fine.
And my next phase? Tech-trance. |
Very well said, I was apart of that whole flame war, I was on the uplifting side, and I was just as ignorant as the elitist. Neway I still enjoy uplifting it just seems as though there arent any good tunes coming out and a lack of creativity. I mean its pointless whenever people try to use music as a class barrier, I respect all types and understand thats what opinions are for. I wonder if I will return though. |
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| VaNFeCto |
| quote: | Originally posted by jdjd
Castaneda - Floor Control
Miro - By Your Side (Ronski Speed 2003 Remix)
Jose Amnesia - The Eternal (Nu-Nrg Mix) |
I deleted all those after a week or so, haha. |
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