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Why does Hardware Sound Better than VST? (pg. 6)
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| TranceMasterUk |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancenrg69
you'll probably be busy finding this since it released today
ReFX.Vanguard.VSTi.v1.03.Retail.READ.NFO-TALiO
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i will?
i actually got this yesterday.
but thanks anyway.
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| TranceMasterUk |
especially for you trancenrgay69
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| Damie Mckeown |
SHAMPOO IS BETTAAR THAN CONDITIONER! |
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| TranceMasterUk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Damie Mckeown
SHAMPOO IS BETTAAR THAN CONDITIONER! |
does lange use conditioner??
if not then it sucks!!!! its e!!!!
haha
sorry just a prediction of what nrgay was gonna say |
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| Damie Mckeown |
Who runs that SampleCity.net from here?
Is it trancemasteruk? or Trancevision? |
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| TranceMasterUk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Damie Mckeown
Who runs that SampleCity.net from here?
Is it trancemasteruk? or Trancevision? |
its me. |
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| trancenrg69 |
| billy madison best comedy ever! he called the poop! |
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| Sean Walsh |
| I can't believe I actually waded through all of this crap. The whole hardware vs. software debate is just retarded IMO, and all of these threads end up the same way at the end. You can make great trance music without hardware synths, but that doesn't mean software is nearly as powerful. I'm personally all software and I've had some pretty good tunes I think, but I can't wait to get my hands on a beast like the virus C or nordlead3. |
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| Stuart Silver |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sean Walsh
I can't believe I actually waded through all of this crap. The whole hardware vs. software debate is just retarded IMO, and all of these threads end up the same way at the end. |
Gotta agree with you on this one.
(Well, this one ended up a bit differntly with pictures of Trancenrg flexing his muscles :D ) |
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| dj terror |
| imo software is better then hardware cause its free :happy2: whereas you cant go to your local music store and download an acess virus or a nordlead . also software sounds the same to me i dont notice a diference in quality of sound . and formwhat i hear about hardware theres no wires no hookup and trip over . and softsynths dont get banged up ,cigarete burns ,and cracked , missing , broken ot stuck keys . i say software all the way :) |
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| DJ-Fuq |
| quote: | Originally posted by Stuart Silver
I was bored so I had a dig around on the web to work out 'like for like' processing power. There are a LOT of assumptions here, so don't give me a load of grief!
The Access Virus uses the Motorola 56311 DSP chip(s). I can't find out how mant (anyone with a virus fancy taking it apart? :D ) But for this rough calculation I'll assume 3 chips. The chips are 150Mhz, and assuming they work in parallel that give 450MIPS (million instructions per second)
REFXs Vanguard has a minimum spec of a P3 800GHZ. This give 800MIPS - less than twice the assumed power of the Virus
Now, the Virus uses each of those 450MIPS for DSP & nothing else (okay, maybe a bit of midi in/out), whilst using Vanguard you're likely to have any amount of these running-
* Windows (obviously!) (to give you some idea how much of a CPU hog windows can be, hit Ctrl+Alt+Del, goto Task Manager then Performance. Move the window to the top left of the screen, then drag & drop it to the bottom left. You'll see a CPU spike (mine was about 20%!!) just for moving that little old window!)
* Cubase/Fruity (very CPU intensive especially if using additional fx)
* Audio Editor
* Other background processes (I dread to think how many MIPS are used to keep all the crap in your system try running!)
I think the best software vs hardware comparision will be between a (by then vintage!) Virus and a 10GHz 'Future' PC running a VST with a min spec of a 5GHz processor. :D |
1mhz does not = 1mips. And different processors will differ greatly in mips even at the same clock speed.
I agree with trancenrg69, sorta. >99% of software is just not as good as hardware. That doesnt mean it CANT sound as good in some cases, just that on the whole it doesnt. But comparing things like the vstation and kstation isnt fair because obviously companies wont make software versions of their synths as good as hardware versions. Comparisons should only be made between the absolute best software and hardware.
I still say reaktor is as good, or better if u wanna take flexibility and range of possible sounds into account, tho. |
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| Vert |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
1mhz does not = 1mips. And different processors will differ greatly in mips even at the same clock speed.
I agree with trancenrg69, sorta. >99% of software is just not as good as hardware. That doesnt mean it CANT sound as good in some cases, just that on the whole it doesnt. But comparing things like the vstation and kstation isnt fair because obviously companies wont make software versions of their synths as good as hardware versions. Comparisons should only be made between the absolute best software and hardware.
I still say reaktor is as good, or better if u wanna take flexibility and range of possible sounds into account, tho. |
Agreed. Go read my posts I never said that either was better. I argued the vst platform is viable for equal sound quality under correct conditions. TE69 just doesn't read very closely.
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