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so how long you been doin this dj thing for? (pg. 3)
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| JayKuE |
| quote: | Originally posted by escee
Ive skipped over harmonic mixing, because i think writing down keys on records is akin to bpm to counters, id like to think most of my mixes are in key, but they probably arnt. i tend to focus on playing what i think will work well rather than what the laws of music tell me will work (im raging against the machine). Maybe giving in and writing down keys and djing by numbers is what i need to do to reach the level of pirate? But yeah, im not keen on that (because of the principle, not the work involved in doing it).
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i don't think writing the bpm and key of a tune is necessarily a bad thing, nor cheating, as long as you understand why it works - instead of following a circle of fifths [diagram which shows which keys go with which] http://www.harmonic-mixing.com/overview/easymix.mv - more so especially, if you manually key your own records.
even if two tunes are "in key", there are still other elements in the tune that won't make them fit i.e. percussion - good tracklisting skills, reading crowd comes to play. with harmonic mixing, you just cut your selection down a great deal.
harmonic mixing really gives you the control to with ppl's feelings. if you want to bring it up a notch/uplifting vibe, you can. bring it down, you can. make it sad, you can. keep a steady flow before a peak, you can. its something that will assist in set structure that will take listeners on a more fulfilling ride, touching at least the landscape of all emotions.
one more thing. remember, very few ppl are pitch/tone perfect. even armin keys his own records no? learning to mix harmonically though improves that. transistions i made that sounded good half a year ago, jus sound plain ugly to me now - this distinguished, without me knowing what keys they're in. exposure is good.
excuse the jagged post once again. |
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| Antistatic |
20yo, DJing for 2 years, 3 club residencies, played at Godskitchen Renaissance Ministry of Sound (in Perth and Mexico) & started producing in the last month or so.
I'm always looking for ways to challenge myself with my sets and I think to go any further you really need to get into producing. I know I'm pretty crap at the mo but I figure you gotta walk before you can run, so to speak. |
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| ONION |
| quote: | Originally posted by Antistatic
I'm always looking for ways to challenge myself with my sets and I think to go any further you really need to get into producing. I know I'm pretty crap at the mo but I figure you gotta walk before you can run, so to speak. |
Absolutely,
Its great that you have already realised this at 20, and you are looking to challenge yourself and take a different direction with music. When you are djing, you are limited because you can only manipulate what is being played, when you produce there are no limits or boundaries.
I will say this though, producing isn't for everyone. Even if you are a kickarse DJ, and you have a great ear for mixing... it doesnt naturally mean that the composition will be at the same level... and therefore you will be "walking" for a long time.
If you take PVD for example who was a DJ prior to writing his own music... He was picked up by a label called Masterminded For Success in the very very early 90s... He had no idea how to write music, but the people he collaberated with did... Up until 96 or 97 he had other people helping compose the music...
So my point is it may take a while to grasp at first... but im sure you will enjoy the challenge. |
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| [ groovypants ] |
wowzers...
Its been 8 months for me and I'm only just starting to get the hang of it. :\ |
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| DjKronik |
| I have been Dj-ing for 3 years and in that time I have gone from playing straight trance to playing all styles like breaks drum & bass hardcore etc. I have played at a few clubs. I even won a local dj comp last year. But I have gone back in the bedroom trying to perfect my mixing. I am heading to the UK this year and I am hoping to continue dj-ing there.:D |
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| Stu |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveBegic
7 years and to this day i still have never owned a pair of decks :toocool: |
This is actually more common than you think
Kasey Taylor has been playing coming up to 20 years now and has never owned 2 turntables, I couldn't believe it when he told me. He's the only DJ to get an invite to play Bedrock twice in one year, headlined all over Europe & Asia and he's only ever had the one 1200 for listening to tracks at home.
No way you could get away with it these days but back then he started playing at a roller rink where no one really cared about beatmatching and he just taught himself
As for me, I'm coming up on 3 years in July. Only ever thought it would be a hobby but I've managed to play some pretty good gigs at some of the best nights in Melbourne. Getting to play closing set at Q Sunday after the StKilda festival is certainly the highlight. Especially now that the night has finished after over 5 years. |
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| Psygnosis |
| It's not hard to actually learn Djing with no decks. Maybe you don't have them but you use them nonetheless and that alone is what improves you. |
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| JulesPLees |
3 years in the bedroom...1 year in clubs.
Resident at r00m, occasional Viper gigs, OnLine parties, 5am parties.. Altitude will be regular soon, and now I got my first Future Ent. gig.
I got lucky.
Level...6/10. (recent level up due to Thirst comp)
I always think I'm hot till I go to a San Tran and see the real professionals do it. Then I level up. |
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| JulesPLees |
Oh, I also get this feeling I listen and mix more than most...
Probably spent 3 hours a day for the first 2 years and now about an hour a day..(and Dave is right....unless u wanna be tricky, u dont really need dex...Kat doesnt own any)....its all about track selection:|...and you only learn that from PLaying out. |
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| DynaFire |
| I really don't get how dj's can not have decks... I mean, why not? You never get the urge to play at home? How many guitarist only play out? How many singers only sing when they have a gig? Well not me, i was just singing while walking home through the forest, and if i get an idea for a tune i start jaming away on my sampler or synth. What kind of music do people who don't have decks listen to at home? When i've had a tiring day in the lab I play tunes, almost never trance now days though. The first thing i bought when i got to German was a little stereo, decks and mixer. AUTA's have already heard about the mixer! :D Maybe for the pro dj's it's different... I've been collecting vinyl all my life so it's just a part of me... it just depends on mood if i'm going put on Hybrid, Deep Dish, Bob Dylan, BMW, Leonard Cohen, Everclear or DJ Vadim, Dj Shadow, etc... Have you guys got a deck for listening to tunes at home? What do you do if you don't? Have the tunes you want to here on CD as well? |
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| webmeister |
Bought my decks in June 2003, so about 10 months now. I think I'm OK, though still not good enough to be playing out yet....
Those who've heard my mixing can probably comment more than I can :haha: |
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| basshound |
| started dj'n in early 2000 after a few years producing with rebirth.. getting back into the producing again now (finally :)) |
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