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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by vtec junkie
oh and on a personal note: screw bush :whip: :whip: :whip: |
im not about to read the whole topic... but i agree with ur personal note vtec :)
btw good luck and have fun in atlanta |
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| GUBostonDubs |
| quote: | Originally posted by limin_li
Brian: I agree with you brother. I believe this country is in terrible mess. I did see the uncut video from a site which I am not going to talk about. It seems like Muslims love to do throat cut videos for propaganda. If you remember what happened to Daniel Pearl in 2002, and how he died. You know exactly what I am talking about. The truth is, we are the original killers. If we didn't go to war with Iraq, non of this you seen on TV will be happening. If this was Clinton, he would of talk to Sadam Hussian. In fact, he almost made a stable friendship with Iran. Further more, Clinton was going to build a new building for North Korea to ease the nuclear power over there.
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Limin |
After reading more of this thread I stumbled onto this post and I must say you are totally wrong.You are of the "This is all George Bush's fault mentality".Saddam Hussein was the King of stalling and dancing around policies the UN established not just the United States.The Gulf War was over since 1991 and Saddam had over 10 years to comply with UN regulations.Bush actually had the guts to say the UN and actually hold Saddam accountable for not complying with International Law.Let me be clear in saying that I am not a George Bush advocate myself.Clinton was not doing about anything.His charisma landed him blowjobs in the oval office but he really was not strong at all in dealing with Saddam Hussein.Clinton actually had several small campaigns against iraq for not complying with UN resolutions but they basicly pin pricks and Saddam just sat in his Presidential palaces and laughed at us.Also North Korea was building up its nuclear capabilities behind Clinton's back anyways.More importantly,the Clinton administration did basicly nothing against Al Kaieda after the two Embassy bombings that killed Hundreds of U.S. Citizens and the fact that Al Kaieda was building up its capabilities and became an outspoken opponent of the United States.Clinton wouldn't have done . |
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| PVD_S11DJ |
ah finally someone in this room with a brain...
*applause* |
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| PVD_S11DJ |
| quote: | Originally posted by steven neil
mate,,i never even knew that....its a backward nation,,the whole of the middle east is ed up,, they cant get their heads round the concept of living in peace.......i wanna see all the world leaders have a bit of a get together,, cane a few pills and chill the out...flood the middle east with reasonably priced ecstacy,,get the arab world mashed and loved up on pills.... |
this must explain your mindless uneducated banter... |
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| GUBostonDubs |
| quote: | Originally posted by trunks1022
which then leads to all these other questions like... what about us helping the afghans in the mid 80s, or what about us being there for the first gulf war... what if those never happened? |
Helping the Afghans in the 1980's helped against the spread of communism.It was a necessary evil at the time.There's also the Iran Hostage Situation,The Pan Am Lockerby Bombing,The bombing of innocent American soldiers' barracks in Lebannon as well as The Bombing of the Embassies in Africa by Al Qaeda.There is a deep seeded hatred for the United States in some parts of the Middle East which is undeniable.It results from the fact that we stand by their sworn enemy which is Israel.Basicly they've had a grudge almost since the beginning of time and anyone who supports Israel is just as guilty in their view.The militant religious fanatics in the Middle East believe that it is their sacred duty to kill americans which they believe to be evil because of our lifestyle.They hate the fact that women have power in society.They hate the fact that people have freedom to choose whatever religion they want.They hate every freedom that the United States has.They don't hesitate when they have a chance to kill an American.The Fact still remains that Saddam Hussein is out of power.This is the same man who used chemical weapons against the Kurds in Northern Iraq too.I guess its ok to have those kinds of people in power in the middle east an already rediculously unstable region.
Anyone who blames Bush for this is shortsided and refuses to look at the big picture.This issue has been deep routed for several decades.911 would have happend regardless of who was president.Saddam was a major threat to the region and he is now behind bars.Look at the facts and read a history book before you make a judgement on a situation.Bush is a minor figure in this never ending story.The next president whoever it might be will surely have to deal with these issues. |
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| GUBostonDubs |
| I also remember seeing pics of Innocent Kurds that were nerve gased to death in Northern Iraq by Saddam's forces.I also remember Iraqi Scud missiles raining down on Saudi Arabian and Israeli cities with innocent civilians praying to god that the missiles would be shot down by AMERICAN PATRIOT MISSILES and also prayed that Saddam wasn't firing chemical weapons against them. |
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| AddictedTo1982 |
| quote: | Originally posted by GUBostonDubs
After reading more of this thread I stumbled onto this post and I must say you are totally wrong.You are of the "This is all George Bush's fault mentality".Saddam Hussein was the King of stalling and dancing around policies the UN established not just the United States.The Gulf War was over since 1991 and Saddam had over 10 years to comply with UN regulations.Bush actually had the guts to say the UN and actually hold Saddam accountable for not complying with International Law.Let me be clear in saying that I am not a George Bush advocate myself.Clinton was not doing about anything.His charisma landed him blowjobs in the oval office but he really was not strong at all in dealing with Saddam Hussein.Clinton actually had several small campaigns against iraq for not complying with UN resolutions but they basicly pin pricks and Saddam just sat in his Presidential palaces and laughed at us.Also North Korea was building up its nuclear capabilities behind Clinton's back anyways.More importantly,the Clinton administration did basicly nothing against Al Kaieda after the two Embassy bombings that killed Hundreds of U.S. Citizens and the fact that Al Kaieda was building up its capabilities and became an outspoken opponent of the United States.Clinton wouldn't have done . |
Well why did that ****** Colin Powell go on TV saying that there was Weapons of Mass Distrucation, the UN Inspecters went and they found nothing Iraq ,I mean a few empty trucks and just some soil samples but nothing major, even today nothing is found. Plus your forgoting how Bush was saying that Saddam Hussian had ties with AL-Queda which were totally bogus facts. If you saw one of Osama Bin Ladenss tapes that aired that said "Saddam Hussian is Devil and should be excuted. I guess you seem to be bahsng on Clinton, remember he had Peace talks going on with Israel and Palestine in 2000 going on. Hmmmm maybe there would not be any crazyness going if som idoit was elected and saying "I am very anti CLINTON"
Plus the economy was still great during his years and people had jobs.Plus Bush had ties to Enron who stoled peoples money left some really pooR. So don't come here attacking Clinton because Bush is also just as guilty. :whip: :whip: :whip: |
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| das_Mario |
| The murder of Nick Berg was another reminder of the true nature of Islamic extremists. These people will kill anyone that does not agree with their goal of imposing fundamentalist Islamic rule everywhere. There should be no illusion about negotiating with al Qaeda. I hope these savages are wiped out from the face of the earth. |
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| DR86 |
GUBostonDubs-
I respect your opinions and points of view. However, I feel compelled to disagree with many of them. First of all, Islamic fundamentalists do not oppose the US because of the status of women or our lifestyle. They oppose the US, and most of the West for that fact, because they feel that they are being persecuted. I urge you to reread your history. Ever since the Crusades of the Middle Ages, the Arabs have been attacked and decimated by Western forces. They were living in their regions peaceful until huge European armies began to sweep through those regions pillaging villages and raping women. I am not by any means defending the actions of terrorist groups or fundamentalists. Being a Christian Lebanese person, I have a deep dislike for fundamentalists and terrorists because it was those same people that started the war in my country that lasted for 20 years, and we're still trying to recover from today. I just wanted to try and give you a little more insight on the mentality of these s and how they think. |
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| vtec junkie |
| quote: | Originally posted by das_Mario
The murder of Nick Berg was another reminder of the true nature of Islamic extremists. These people will kill anyone that does not agree with their goal of imposing fundamentalist Islamic rule everywhere. There should be no illusion about negotiating with al Qaeda. I hope these savages are wiped out from the face of the earth. |
Put me over there with a ing machine gun.....please. No better yet.....id like to see those punk ass bastards fight us old school style.......no weapons.....fist to fist.:whip: :whip: :whip: |
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| DaveSZ |
You guys should see the nuts Bush is appointing to our Federal courts.
http://www.independentjudiciary.com...fm?NomineeID=46
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William H. Pryor, Jr.
Nominated to: Court of Appeals, 11th Circuit
Status of nomination: Nominated 4/09/03; Hearing 06/11/03
Given a recess appointment by President Bush to the Eleventh Circuit, 2/20/04
Voted out of Committee on 07/23/2003
There has been two failed cloture vote: July 31, 2003 and November 6, 2003
Pryor's Record
Reproductive Choice.
Pryor has been extremely hostile to a woman's constitutional right to reproductive choice.
Pryor has said: "I will never forget January 22, 1973, the day seven members of our highest court ripped the Constitution and ripped out the life of millions of unborn children."5
Pryor has called Roe v. Wade "the worst abomination of constitutional law in our history."6
Pryor says he agrees with Justice Scalia that "the Constitution says nothing about a right to abortion."7
Dismantling Civil Rights.
Pryor has been one of the leading proponents of reviving states' rights at the expense of federal civil rights protections.
Under Pryor's leadership, Alabama was the only state to challenge the constitutionality of a provision of the Violence Against Women Act (United States v. Morrison).8 Pryor also argued that the Supreme Court should cut back on the protections of the Age Discrimination in Employment Act, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Americans with Disabilities Act, the Family and Medical Leave Act, 9and the Clean Water Act.
Voting Rights.
Pryor has urged Congress to consider getting rid of a key provision of the Voting Rights Act, which protects the right to vote for African-Americans. While testifying before a Congressional Committee, Pryor urged the Committee to "consider seriously...the repeal or amendment of Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act, which [he labeled an] affront to federalism and an expansive burden that has far outlived its usefulness."10
Rights of Gays and Lesbians.
During his tenure as Alabama Attorney General, Pryor has taken a number of actions hostile to the rights of gays and lesbians.
In 1995, as a Deputy Attorney General, Pryor and then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions joined an amicus brief in support of the state of Colorado's defense of a voter initiative that prohibited local governments from enacting laws protecting gays and lesbians from discrimination (Romer v. Evans).11 Explaining why his office felt compelled to join the brief, Pryor stated: "The attorney general of Alabama felt strongly that we don't need to be finding new rights in our Constitution [because] we've done enough of that in recent years."12
In 2002, Pryor filed an anti-gay brief in Lawrence v. Texas on behalf of Alabama urging the Supreme Court to uphold Texas' law banning same-sex sodomy. Pryor argued that a "constitutional right that protects `the choice of one's partner' and `whether and how to connect sexually' must logically extend to activities like prostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, and even incest and pedophilia."13
Separation of Church and State.
Pryor has demonstrated a general lack of respect for the constitutional wall separating church and state. For example, Pryor has vigorously defended the display of the Ten Commandments in state courthouses.
Pryor has also defended a state judge's sponsorship of Christian prayers before jury assemblies.14
In 1997, Pryor, along with the Christian Coalition's Ralph Reed, attended a "Save the Commandments" rally in Montgomery, Alabama where he stated: "God has chosen, through his son Jesus Christ, this time and this place for all Christians...to save our country and save our courts."15
Cruel and Unusual Punishment.
Over the course of his career in the Attorney General's office, Pryor has been a vocal opponent of the rights of criminal defendants.
In 1995, Governor Fob James revived the practice of chaining unruly prisoners to hitching posts.16 Inmate Larry Hope had been handcuffed to a hitching post on several occasions, and denied access to water and the bathroom.17 Pryor vigorously defended the actions of the prison officials.18 The Supreme Court rejected Pryor's argument: "Hope was treated in a way antithetical to human dignity -- he was hitched to a post for an extended period of time in a position that was painful and under circumstances that were both degrading and dangerous. The obvious cruelty of the practice should have put the guards on notice that they were violating the inmate's constitutional rights."19
Pryor also argued that states' execution of mentally retarded inmates did not violate the U.S. Constitution.20 The U.S. Supreme Court, in Atkins v. Virginia, again rejected Pryor's argument, and prohibited all states from executing the mentally retarded.
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