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The Day After Tomorrow (pg. 4)
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| TeKnoHe@d2025 |
| quote: | Originally posted by _Nut_
Let alone... a "hurricane over land"???
Hurricane atmospheric destabilization equals:
100-200 ft of 80° temps of surface water
steep lapse rates
upper level disturbance
african easterly trough
slow tropical jet
etc etc..
w/o all of those factors clouds will boil up to glaciated cumulous clouds and that is it.
and the fact el presidente would give a speech on the weather channel (the most retarded of retard meteorologists) is a ing joke. |
Did you even bother to think before posting this? The "hurricane" in the movie was not your typical hurricane, instead of being created using warm air/water it was created using cold air. Who's to argue exactly what will/could happen? It's all just a theory right now anyway. We don't exactly have a written history on what happened during the last ice age.
The comment about the President giving a speech on the Weather Channel is pretty funny too. Remember 9/11? Almost every station had a broadcast of any government speech given that day. It's very possible that if a weather-related disaster were to strike the US that the Weather Channel would air the speech also. :rolleyes: |
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| Algenis |
| the movie was alright... |
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| Mr. Pink |
Im totally psyched about seeing this movie....
in the beginning i was thinking it would take a more realistic approach towards the end of the world via global warming, however after reading every single damn reply....ill just take this to be an action movie of grandois proportions ;) |
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| TuanAnh213 |
| maybe its best i should watch this movie with no expectations... |
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| DR86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by TuanAnh213
maybe its best i should watch this movie with no expectations... |
or don't watch at all |
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| Floorfiller |
i just got back from this. it was ok, but i don't know about some of the exagerations...i hate when they do that hehehe...
who here believes in global warning? i know a lot of intelligent scientist that think its a falacy and then those that believe its true...just curious what everyone else thinks? |
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| _Nut_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025
Did you even bother to think before posting this? The "hurricane" in the movie was not your typical hurricane, instead of being created using warm air/water it was created using cold air. Who's to argue exactly what will/could happen? It's all just a theory right now anyway. We don't exactly have a written history on what happened during the last ice age.
The comment about the President giving a speech on the Weather Channel is pretty funny too. Remember 9/11? Almost every station had a broadcast of any government speech given that day. It's very possible that if a weather-related disaster were to strike the US that the Weather Channel would air the speech also. :rolleyes: |
Did you ever think of my qualifications? Think of this. What does cold air do. What does warm air do? Cold air sinks. Warm air "gasp" rises.... How can sinking air rise to create cloud formations? Answer me that.
And yes, all is theory but having a 'tropical cyclone' of that magnitude is scientifically impossible. Having one (theoretically) the size of the North America's would feed off of any available potential energy and such the atmopshere dry, thereby limiting the propagation of any other storm system......
IE Thermodynamic laws:
The first law of thermodynamics is a consequence of conservation of energy and requires that a system may exchange energy with the surroundings strictly by heat flow or work.
The second law of thermodynamics prohibits the construction of a perpetual motion machine "of the second kind." There are two usual statements of this law. Kelvin's formulation states that it is impossible for a system operating in a cycle and in contact with one thermal reservoir to perform positive work in the surroundings. Clausius's formulation states that it is impossible for a system operating in a cycle to produce positive heat flow from a colder body to a hotter body.
The third law of thermodynamics states that as temperature goes to 0, the entropy approaches a constant. Furthermore, it guarantees that the entropy of a pure, perfectly crystalline substance is 0 if the absolute temperature is 0.
And my last and final rant. The weather channel is a joke. 30% of their staff have actual Bachelor degree's in Meteorology. The other 70% obtained a 'degree' from Mississippi state. (I learned this fact from Melissa Barington who is an NIU graduate and employee of the weather channel) They dummy down the weather... on the order of making it broadcast worthy. The do not have to take any Math, Calculus or Differential Equations. They do not have to take Physics or Thermodynamics. They do not have to learn any computer programming. They learn what I learned in my 100 level class, freshman year....the pure basics. And they walk out acting like they are know it alls.
TeKnoHe@d2025, I dont mean to dog you, but what I say is not smoke being blown up your ass. I am (as of May 8th) graduate with a B.S. in Meteorology. I've decided to skip working off the bat and continue schooling. I am going to be attending Colorado State Univeristy to undertake a M.S. in climatology. So I know a thing or two about this subject. |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by _Nut_
Did you ever think of my qualifications? Think of this. What does cold air do. What does warm air do? Cold air sinks. Warm air "gasp" rises.... How can sinking air rise to create cloud formations? Answer me that.
And yes, all is theory but having a 'tropical cyclone' of that magnitude is scientifically impossible. Having one (theoretically) the size of the North America's would feed off of any available potential energy and such the atmopshere dry, thereby limiting the propagation of any other storm system......
IE Thermodynamic laws:
The first law of thermodynamics is a consequence of conservation of energy and requires that a system may exchange energy with the surroundings strictly by heat flow or work.
The second law of thermodynamics prohibits the construction of a perpetual motion machine "of the second kind." There are two usual statements of this law. Kelvin's formulation states that it is impossible for a system operating in a cycle and in contact with one thermal reservoir to perform positive work in the surroundings. Clausius's formulation states that it is impossible for a system operating in a cycle to produce positive heat flow from a colder body to a hotter body.
The third law of thermodynamics states that as temperature goes to 0, the entropy approaches a constant. Furthermore, it guarantees that the entropy of a pure, perfectly crystalline substance is 0 if the absolute temperature is 0.
And my last and final rant. The weather channel is a joke. 30% of their staff have actual Bachelor degree's in Meteorology. The other 70% obtained a 'degree' from Mississippi state. (I learned this fact from Melissa Barington who is an NIU graduate and employee of the weather channel) They dummy down the weather... on the order of making it broadcast worthy. The do not have to take any Math, Calculus or Differential Equations. They do not have to take Physics or Thermodynamics. They do not have to learn any computer programming. They learn what I learned in my 100 level class, freshman year....the pure basics. And they walk out acting like they are know it alls.
TeKnoHe@d2025, I dont mean to dog you, but what I say is not smoke being blown up your ass. I am (as of May 8th) graduate with a B.S. in Meteorology. I've decided to skip working off the bat and continue schooling. I am going to be attending Colorado State Univeristy to undertake a M.S. in climatology. So I know a thing or two about this subject. |
CSU sucks!!!:p
GO CU!!!! hehehe |
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| _Nut_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
CSU sucks!!!:p
GO CU!!!! hehehe |
CSU is one of the top graduate/PhD schools in the country for atmospheric sciences |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by _Nut_
CSU is one of the top graduate/PhD schools in the country for atmospheric sciences |
hehhe...just a little friendly rivalry...don't take it personally...;)
i go to CU.. |
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| _Nut_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
hehhe...just a little friendly rivalry...don't take it personally...;)
i go to CU.. |
lol. Go Rams! CU Buffaloes make me chuckle. (indeed rivalry is good!) |
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| Vigilante |
Very informative posts. I think we all know that the movie grossly exaggerates the time-frame, nature and effects of climate change.....it was never intended to be scientifically sound.
Lets face it, all the massive disasters and special effects are big and exciting and good to watch (for most of us anyway), and it is a movie, so they have created a fictional story BUT it is based on an element of truth. The element of truth is that global warming is occurring, it is heating up the atmosphere, and humans are contrubuting to global warming through the release of greenhouse gases. The message behind the film is a warning about the dangers of global warming.
I will be going to see this soon, just because i love a big, special-effects filled action movie, and it seems like quite an entertaining film. Not a "good" film as such, but an entertaining film nevertheless.
I will probably wait till i see Troy first though. |
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