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Soccer is really dying , stupid rules are killing it
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| erdega |
I don't know about anyone else but I find games and soccer in general really boring lately .Mind you I grew up in europe and played soccer a lot growing up but I think it's really time to change the rules and speed up the game and have it be more challenging.
I just find it boring for players to dribble between themselves most of the time and have no aggression. There is no talent displayed and there is tons of stupid rules that kill any type of creativity. Lots of teams are just stalling once they are up and there is nothing you can do about it.
I think bench players should be involved more and the stupid rule of only 3 substitutions should be dissalowed. It would allow players to be fresh and strategy of coaches to be displayed.
I really think they should add more basketball like rules. 30 seconds to get it past half court should be the rule or you lose possesion. No more injury time or whatever it's called. I can't think of anymore right now but anything should be done to make it more faster and skill oriented instead of stupid rules that allow stalling and boring play |
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| Xavier |
| quote: | Originally posted by erdega
I don't know about anyone else but I find games and soccer in general really boring lately .Mind you I grew up in europe and played soccer a lot growing up but I think it's really time to change the rules and speed up the game and have it be more challenging.
I just find it boring for players to dribble between themselves most of the time and have no aggression. There is no talent displayed and there is tons of stupid rules that kill any type of creativity. Lots of teams are just stalling once they are up and there is nothing you can do about it.
I think bench players should be involved more and the stupid rule of only 3 substitutions should be dissalowed. It would allow players to be fresh and strategy of coaches to be displayed.
I really think they should add more basketball like rules. 30 seconds to get it past half court should be the rule or you lose possesion. No more injury time or whatever it's called. I can't think of anymore right now but anything should be done to make it more faster and skill oriented instead of stupid rules that allow stalling and boring play |
Yeah they should add some timeouts and 3 seconds in the key except 3 seconds in the penalty area for the attacking team. I also think once they stop dribbling, they cannot dribble again. Its about time outfield players are allowed to use their hands in open play.
Add these rules and it will be the greatest sport in the world...
actually it already is... |
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| Ian^ |
| quote: | Originally posted by erdega
I don't know about anyone else but I find games and soccer in general really boring lately .Mind you I grew up in europe and played soccer a lot growing up but I think it's really time to change the rules and speed up the game and have it be more challenging.
I just find it boring for players to dribble between themselves most of the time and have no aggression. There is no talent displayed and there is tons of stupid rules that kill any type of creativity. Lots of teams are just stalling once they are up and there is nothing you can do about it.
I think bench players should be involved more and the stupid rule of only 3 substitutions should be dissalowed. It would allow players to be fresh and strategy of coaches to be displayed.
I really think they should add more basketball like rules. 30 seconds to get it past half court should be the rule or you lose possesion. No more injury time or whatever it's called. I can't think of anymore right now but anything should be done to make it more faster and skill oriented instead of stupid rules that allow stalling and boring play |
Unlike the North American sports, Football is not designed to be able to allow people to deliver doughnuts & pretzels to the fans during breaks. It's fine as it is, and if it's not to your taste, follow something else |
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| evil_bastard |
As Desmond Morris's book "The Soccer Tribe" points out, a sport's popularity depends on:
Scoring ratio: In basketball or cricket scoring is so regular that it becomes devalued. Each score is of little importance. Scores need to be scarce to be valuable but not too scarce as to be boring.
Play/stoppage ratio: Sport needs to flow to be popular. Cricket, baseball, gridiron, etc will always appeal only to a certain kind of individual, perhaps those who are excited by boredom. Some breaks are necessary, just as action movies need occasional lulls, and soccer's 4-1 play stoppage ratio is ideal.
Simplicity: Soccer is as simple or as complex as the viewer wants it to be. There's something to learn for even the most experienced coach.
Dimension: Soccer's one of the few sports where the ball may be passed through 360 degrees, on or off the ground. The options a player has are endless and so is the variety in play.
Technique: More parts of the body are used to play the ball than in any other sport. Because there are so many skills to master, players can develop a fascination for the ball. Other sportsmen throw, hit, or kick the ball back and forward. A soccer player can amuse himself for hours juggling a football.
History: Soccer, because of its simplicity, has been played longer than any other sport. Cavemen were kicking mammoth bladders around for about a thousand years before they used tusks as bats and darts.
Speed: Play can go from one end to the other in seconds. A near miss at one end becomes a goal at the other with one, long pass.
Many sports involve some of the above but not all. There's something special about football that it can create so much passion in so many people around the world. Countries have been to war over it, countries have postponed war because of it. It's about self-expression, each nation has their own style of football which is strongly tied to their culture. It's ingrained into all levels of society - during the last world cup the games kicked off at around 6am here in England going until noon, but churches and schools had to provide big screens for people to see the game, while the government feared a loss of billions in work productivity if the nation made it to the final. Some of the nations busiest streets were brought to a standstill during the quarter final with Brazil, it was surreal. If you don't like football then follow something else, because nobody is going to change it, it's massive.
Ice Hockey is said to be the closest to football but is let down by the fact it is only played in two dimensions which limits the variety of play, as well as the fact that ice is scarce in many parts of the world which will always make it exclusive. |
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| milanster |
| quote: | Originally posted by Xavier
Yeah they should add some timeouts and 3 seconds in the key except 3 seconds in the penalty area for the attacking team. I also think once they stop dribbling, they cannot dribble again. Its about time outfield players are allowed to use their hands in open play.
Add these rules and it will be the greatest sport in the world...
actually it already is... |
wtf??? sorry man but that was really stupid....
basketball is something...FOOTBALL is something else! |
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| PacMan |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Darklord
rofl |
cant post my thoughts any better than that. |
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| Ian^ |
| quote: | Originally posted by milanster
wtf??? sorry man but that was really stupid....
basketball is something...FOOTBALL is something else! |
he was taking the piss mate ;) |
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| razmataz |
| quote: | Originally posted by evil_bastard
As Desmond Morris's book "The Soccer Tribe" points out, a sport's popularity depends on:
Scoring ratio: In basketball or cricket scoring is so regular that it becomes devalued. Each score is of little importance. Scores need to be scarce to be valuable but not too scarce as to be boring.
Play/stoppage ratio: Sport needs to flow to be popular. Cricket, baseball, gridiron, etc will always appeal only to a certain kind of individual, perhaps those who are excited by boredom. Some breaks are necessary, just as action movies need occasional lulls, and soccer's 4-1 play stoppage ratio is ideal.
Simplicity: Soccer is as simple or as complex as the viewer wants it to be. There's something to learn for even the most experienced coach.
Dimension: Soccer's one of the few sports where the ball may be passed through 360 degrees, on or off the ground. The options a player has are endless and so is the variety in play.
Technique: More parts of the body are used to play the ball than in any other sport. Because there are so many skills to master, players can develop a fascination for the ball. Other sportsmen throw, hit, or kick the ball back and forward. A soccer player can amuse himself for hours juggling a football.
History: Soccer, because of its simplicity, has been played longer than any other sport. Cavemen were kicking mammoth bladders around for about a thousand years before they used tusks as bats and darts.
Speed: Play can go from one end to the other in seconds. A near miss at one end becomes a goal at the other with one, long pass.
Many sports involve some of the above but not all. There's something special about football that it can create so much passion in so many people around the world. Countries have been to war over it, countries have postponed war because of it. It's about self-expression, each nation has their own style of football which is strongly tied to their culture. It's ingrained into all levels of society - during the last world cup the games kicked off at around 6am here in England going until noon, but churches and schools had to provide big screens for people to see the game, while the government feared a loss of billions in work productivity if the nation made it to the final. Some of the nations busiest streets were brought to a standstill during the quarter final with Brazil, it was surreal. If you don't like football then follow something else, because nobody is going to change it, it's massive.
Ice Hockey is said to be the closest to football but is let down by the fact it is only played in two dimensions which limits the variety of play, as well as the fact that ice is scarce in many parts of the world which will always make it exclusive. |
Great points to put everything I already know into words... :)
Soccer is fine as it is, the rules have never been better I think. There was a time when German football experimented with cheerleading. Argh. Good thing that didn't last.
If soccer doesnt roll your candy rod then there are a plethora of other sports that have timeouts, unlimited subs, half time shows and what not. Personally, I've never come across a more engaging sport. |
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| malek |
How about removing a couple of players during extra time to "open up" the play and let the teams score before going to those senseless penalty kicks (or getting rid of these penalty kicks all together).
Adding a second referee on the pitch to call the faults ones missed by the first ref which can't be everywhere at once.
just some ideas. |
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| razmataz |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
How about removing a couple of players during extra time to "open up" the play and let the teams score before going to those senseless penalty kicks (or getting rid of these penalty kicks all together).
Adding a second referee on the pitch to call the faults ones missed by the first ref which can't be everywhere at once.
just some ideas. |
About removing a couple of players... I am not sure that would be agreat idea as they are already exhausted by the end of 90 mins, covering extra ground will just make them dead...
And well i dont know if this would be necessary as it is not very common not to see a goal in extra time, no team wants to go to penalties and normally you will see a lot of end to end stuff... Sweden were very unlucky not to score, hitting the post twice, and both england and portugal scored.
Penalties may seem harsh, but they are the most dramatic endings and have too much history in football to be removed. I, for one, hope they are always kept.
Second referee would be interesting. Maybe if Fifa experimented with it. But I can see 2 problems already:
1) the field gets crowded as it is, the ref sometimes finding it difficult to get out of the way.
2) the 2nd ref would just be redundant I feel as the linesmen is there to help the ref as it is.
There has been this movement to make football more "fair" these past years, but where would football be without controversy? Its not as if teams get away with murder. At the end of the day its just a game, and decades onwards controversies are remembered in folklore (e.g. hand of god). I say keep the system as it is. No multiple refs, no replay reference. Life isnt fair, why should football be? |
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| malek |
| the crowdiness wouldn't be an issue imo, the second one doesn't have to be where the action is, he can be removed from the play a bit and watch everything from another angle. |
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