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Being unproductive at work ?? (pg. 4)
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| Vivid Boy |
| in desk bastards...get a hard hat and follow my lead there wont be a mintue ur unproductive....cept for when u whistle at hot chix walking by and writing rude graffiti in the washroom also when the bums in the back alley start to duke it out (thats always fun)..or when they film music videos in the job site and all the hip hop video whores come out.. |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
All I can say to everyone here is that you won't get far being lazy. For going way beyond my job description and blowing them away 2 years in a row, I pretty much have free run now - when I've got a project to do, they know they'll get more than they asked for, and I'll have nobody breathing down my neck or pushing me. I need a day off, or a 2 or 3 hour lunch, no questions asked. Technically I'm an outside contractor but I still get my own office with a window should I choose to work over there instead of working from home. I never would have gotten to that point by doing the absolute minimum and surfing TA all day.
Sure, people turn their brains off on Monday morning and Friday afternoon and goof off a bit, but that's expected, the bosses know that (hell, they participate). Chatting on MSN and TA though? Hell no, not when I have a month to finish a project that should technically take three. In the end, you'll get what's coming to you; prove that you're indispensable and you'll move up - waste company time and bandwidth and you'll get the pink slip on their next round of layoffs.
At LEAST do something productive if you're gonna waste time and read the news, or go to sites that are mildly educational.
But hey, maybe I'm wrong, after all what does a developer really know about business... we're all just drones, right? |
kudos for trying to show off your perks to us, diginut... :rolleyes:
all the little perks you described i've had them since day one at work and more. These things actually don't count alot in my book. Whats important is the investment they put in you as a person, be it, training courses, the trust they have toward you or simply the confidence they have (and show) that you'll accomplish your mandate.
There's not one job I worked at where I have sticked to the job description. I would even say that if your job involves a bit of complexity (any field), its impossible to stick to the job description. Thats how it is all over the job market. There's nothing spectacular about it frankly.
Obviously we're making fun of the situation and all, but the real reason why its a bit slow for everyone right now is the summer season. Lots of people are taking their vacations and most of the time you don't have all the people you need to complete your project. Thats normal.
And if you really have nothing to do all year long, thats something else, and its never the workers fault. Management either overestimated the quantity of work and over hired or your manager is a dumb ass who has no work to give you. |
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| DigiNut |
I figured someone would make a stupid comment like that one about "showing off". :rolleyes: I'm talking about trust, not perks, and I'm trying to explain that a good work ethic is what leads to that trust.
You can try to rationalize it all you want but I doubt that the problem with a lot of the goof-offs is that they don't have enough work, it's just that they don't do it.
In fact, I wasn't meaning with my post to harp on people like Durafei, because I totally understand what it's like to just not be able to think and end up having ty days where nothing useful gets done. My problem is with the people who honestly think that goofing off is a good thing and are proud enough of this habit to go around telling everybody they know, along with pushing the mistaken notion that everybody else is just "looking" busy.
Sorry, but that just pisses me off - I understand that we all need our downtime at work, but the key point here is whether we feel good or bad about this downtime. For the people who revel in it and brag to all their friends about how little work they do, I sincerely hope you get fired. |
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| malek |
look its simple, if you don't do the work you're asked to, you get fired.
having not much to do is something else and I wonder how can someone who brags about it is guilty of being "unperfect" like you mr. diginut.
If someone is bragging about it, its obviously because he's being cynic about the whole situation, like me for example.
one of the reasons i am considering leaving my job (and say good bye to these perks) is because most of the time, i am either waiting after someone, finish my work early because its too simple or have nothing to do. And belive me, I get so ing annoyed when I have nothing to do. I studied years and years to be sitting at a desk doing nothing (posting on TA). Worse, sometimes, i do it on purpose to take my time, because knowing that if I finish fast, my boss wouldn't have much to give me to work at (i learned that from experience).
What really boggled my mind, is when the bosses over here congratualted me on the last project i ended after 8 months. They told me that projects of this magnitude take usually twice as long:eek: at least:eek: :eek: I thought that project took too long of a time because of the so many external factors that slowed me down, i was disapointed in myself actually. But after being congratulated, i wanted to leave the job, what the , i don't want to work in such a place.
So where was I, yes you mr. diginut. Don't try simplfying things and make us all look unperfect. The workplace is a complex environnement where there's no magic reciepe for succes. Each one of us here has his own situation and own reasons, most of us have graduated and have professions, and for these people, I don't think its by choice that we end up not doing much and being underemployed in respect to our full capacities. |
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| bubbleravegirl |
hmm most of the time i leave a job cuz 1) i get bored and 2) when i asked to go beyond my job description cuz i want to be challenged in my job, im told, "thats not part of ur job" (in which im thinking, "uh okie so much for supporting the advancement of their staff." then i pretty much flip them a " you" mentally, go search for a new job and then hand in my 2 wks notice happily :) )
i will never stay in a place where im unproductive. i think places like that erode away self-esteem, health etc. xP id rather be somewhere where they show that they appreciate u...yeah mebbe they will overwork u at times but as long as they appreciate u in other ways (paying for training etc. and introducing u to upper mgmt/making u more visible) that is the key.
but yeah the economy sux and as a result many overqualified ppl are forced to take ty jobs to make ends meet...business is cyclical...itll come around again...eventually. but we do what we have to do, thats all. |
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| liquidchick |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
NEVER!
I am a manic efficiency machine! |
Wasn't it you that told me that you just close your office door and listen to music and chat online at work??? ;) |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
All I can say to everyone here is that you won't get far being lazy. For going way beyond my job description and blowing them away 2 years in a row, I pretty much have free run now - when I've got a project to do, they know they'll get more than they asked for, and I'll have nobody breathing down my neck or pushing me. I need a day off, or a 2 or 3 hour lunch, no questions asked. Technically I'm an outside contractor but I still get my own office with a window should I choose to work over there instead of working from home. I never would have gotten to that point by doing the absolute minimum and surfing TA all day.
Sure, people turn their brains off on Monday morning and Friday afternoon and goof off a bit, but that's expected, the bosses know that (hell, they participate). Chatting on MSN and TA though? Hell no, not when I have a month to finish a project that should technically take three. In the end, you'll get what's coming to you; prove that you're indispensable and you'll move up - waste company time and bandwidth and you'll get the pink slip on their next round of layoffs.
At LEAST do something productive if you're gonna waste time and read the news, or go to sites that are mildly educational.
But hey, maybe I'm wrong, after all what does a developer really know about business... we're all just drones, right? |
I've worked hard to be in a position where I CAN do nothing all day.
Only suckers do work.
I get paid to surf TA. Beat that. |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
I've worked hard to be in a position where I CAN do nothing all day.
Only suckers do work.
I get paid to surf TA. Beat that. |
actually you might have a point :)
the higher you're in the hierarchy, the less time you spend working. :p |
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| Vivid Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
I've worked hard to be in a position where I CAN do nothing all day.
Only suckers do work.
I get paid to surf TA. Beat that. |
and that is why ur going to work at a desk forever.. |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
and that is why ur going to work at a desk forever.. |
and so? maybe he doesn't want to wash dishes or build houses for the rest of his life ... :p |
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| Vivid Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
and so? maybe he doesn't want to wash dishes or build houses for the rest of his life ... :p |
working construction for me right now is only a stepping stone and ive already made a huge leap from that stone just waiting for back foot to get up on to the next step.. |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
working construction for me right now is only a stepping stone and ive already made a huge leap from that stone just waiting for back foot to get up on to the next step.. |
which is ?
farmer? |
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