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WTF-God help us all, Bush and cohorts are madmen. (pg. 3)
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| NYCTrancefan |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
To be fair to speedracer, I believe he is referring to the latest AP poll, which does show a slight lead for Bush/Cheney.
The AP poll was released before the choosing of Edwards as Kerry's runningmate, however, which most polls agreed has given Kerry a boost. |
I'm just pulling his string, I'm a bit vocal today first this news about the postponement of elections should their be terror attacks, followed up by the NAACP thing, which all served as a nail in the coffin in my book. Bush has simply got to go, how long can we put up with this from his adminstration be it Rumsfeld, Cheney, Powell, Ashcroft, etc. Whew! |
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| speedracer_mec |
| quote: | Originally posted by NYCTrancefan
I'm just pulling his string, I'm a bit vocal today first this news about the postponement of elections should their be terror attacks, followed up by the NAACP thing, which all served as a nail in the coffin in my book. Bush has simply got to go, how long can we put up with this from his adminstration, be it Rumsfeld, Cheney, Powell, Ashcroft, etc. Whew! |
Dont get me wrong
i dislike cheney....Hopefully bush will replace him before the convention |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancaholic
Pretty much sums up my puzzlement. I cannot immediately see anyone of the US PFRs answering my question as most of you are deeply rooted in either one trench or the other. I find that a flaw of this forum when it comes to discussing US affairs: we need some representatives of the swing voters - or those who do not vote. One fears they care too little about actual politics to post here :( (although I seem to remember that CortexBomb was a non-voting US PFR?). |
I have little doubt that an attack would sway more voters to Bush than to Kerry. Bush's approval rating skyrocketed following 9/11. A similar attack would probably not have as dramatic an effect, but I see no compelling reason to suspect it would have an opposite effect. |
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| anuneventrade |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
I think that's a good hypothetical, because I've heard both sides of the story - more people would run to Bush because he shows his strong-handedness towards terrorists, vs. more people would flock to Kerry because of Bush's failures to prevent terrorists from striking the homeland.
Of course I hope for the latter, but I would never hope for a terrorist strike scenario in the first place. I really don't know which way things would go. My inclination is that the 40-45% of voters who will always vote Republican no matter what will likely not even be pursuaded by such a terrible event, even though I think it does show Bush's failures (like underfunding Homeland Security, for example). |
The sad thing is, nobody will really care. I've encountered so many people saying that they are going to vote Rep/Dem simply because it's what they've always done. They'll listen to the conspiracies, the scandals, the lies, and it won't even register into their heads. They vote without knowing the facts, or the issues. Polls mean nothing to them, campaigning, nothing.
For example, before Clark and Edwards withdrew from the race, I made a speech to one of the classes that I was in about the upcoming election, pointing out the positives and the negatives from each persons campaign. Not a single member in the class had any sort of questions, nor did they care. Later on, a few students told me I was wasting their time, because they're going to vote for whichever side their family is on. My Professor sadly told me that although my intentions were good, they were on deaf ears.
Another example. Take into account how many users we have on TA. How many of those users post regularly in this forum? Not many. We all know each other, and we all know each others opinions and views. I've held numerous jobs throughout the past year, and I tried speaking to co-workers as well. They just weren't listening. They either hated Bush, and would vote for anyone other than Bush, or they said "Well, Bush is an alright guy, nothings gone too haywire in my eyes... I suppose I'll just vote for him".
I know that this isn't the mindset of every American, but I think most of you will agree that it is most of them. Whichever news station they watch reflects who they vote for. |
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| DaveSZ |
We've had two world wars, a Great Depression, and a civil war that literally tore the country apart for ~five years.
In all that time we never suspended elections.
It's plainly obvious that these people have great contempt and disdain for all of us. |
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| Ang ' ela_ie |
"'They [al Quaeda] want to interfere with the elections,'" says one official."
Im sorry, but maybe Im reading into this wrong. Why the HELL would al Quaeda want to interfere with President Bush not being reelected? Am I missing something? Do they not hate him as much if not more as the most intense left-wingers in this country? And the threat is so vague that they dont even know how to prepare for it, just like every other threat we've seen since 2001. Has there even been a terror threat?
This administration is really hell-bent on getting back into office. Maybe Im way out of line here and you might not all agree with me, but Im beginning to believe that they would go do anything to keep their seats at the White House, even if it means ordering a terrorist attack. Their approval rating skyrocketed last time, why wouldnt it have the same effect this time? And we only lost a few thousand lives - its a drop in the bucket to them.
Im just so disappointed with this administration.
It makes me sick to my stomach. :( |
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| _-MIl0 |
| "'They [al Quaeda] want to interfere with the elections,'" says one official." seems as though their trying to make it look as though bush has a chance of wining lol |
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| 3xx3r7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by speedracer_mec
now that the u.s. thinks of preparing for worst case scenario
yall complain
if something happened and we didnt plan
yall complain
so typical of democrats
nag nag nag |
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| speedracer_mec |
| quote: | Originally posted by 3xx3r7
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Soldiers eh?
:rolleyes:
He is a republican as well:cool: |
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| 3xx3r7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by speedracer_mec
Soldiers eh?
:rolleyes:
He is a republican as well:cool: |
Yep, lacking compasion as well. |
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| Q5echo |
go ahead, work yourselves into a paranoid lather kiddos.
yall aren't really saying anything. |
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