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Rooney Signes For Man Utd For 37mil Euro (pg. 5)
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| FabioCannavaro |
| Where are the mods in this section. I would have banned spec a long time ago. His comments are pure trash, he insults everyone including nations(look at the thread about Italy he made), he really needs to get banned. He probably just ruined a good thread with his no nothing knowledge of the sport. |
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| spec |
| quote: | Originally posted by FabioCannavaro
Where are the mods in this section. I would have banned spec a long time ago. His comments are pure trash, he insults everyone including nations(look at the thread about Italy he made), he really needs to get banned. He probably just ruined a good thread with his no nothing knowledge of the sport. |
Grow up, and grow a dick.
Shall I bookmark this thread for when ManU don't qualify for the champions league next year?
The treatment of Beckham, who I don't rate that highly anyway because he can't tackle or beat a man, by Sir Alex was nothing short of disgraceful, and this has lead to ManU struggling to sign anybody decent. I mean Harry Kewell even chose the totally Liverpool to play for instead of ManU, now thats saying something!
When an English club starts signing English players you just know they are running out of options. See Arsenal and Chelsea for examples of the reverse strategy working.
Look at the ManU midfield for an example of exactly how they are:
Djemba - ing hopeless! Can he pass a ball effectively? He has the first touch of a rapist.
Keane - Should have retired years ago. Apart from having mental problems, Keane is slow and not up to Premiership standard.
Scholes - Alright in attack, but has the tackling ability of a 8 year old blind kid.
Ronaldo - Got the step over downpat, and um, has the step over downpat, and he's pretty good at the step over. Thats pretty much all I've got.
raveed: You just proved my point, thanks.
DJ-Fuq: Watch some football. |
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| evil_bastard |
Ferguson made a mistake 12 months ago selling Beckham and bringing in the likes of Kleberson, Djemba, Bellion, Howard. Some people rate Howard but I see him as a decent shot stopper with potential at best, and he's made a few costly errors in only 12 months.
Ferguson made his name when the so-called 'class of 92' emerged; Giggs, Scholes, Beckham, Butt, the Neville brothers, they all came through the youth system, and Keane was also signed. This young squad of players dominated the Premiership for the best part of a decade. But now they are getting towards the end of their careers and long term replacements need to be found. I believe that while Ferguson deserves credit for putting faith in those youngsters back then, he was also lucky that such an excellent batch of young players emerged at that time, and now he is trying to replicate that success. His signings 12 months ago were evidence of this and so far it has failed. Djemba Djemba, Howard, Kleberson, Fletcher, Richardson, they're not of the quality that Giggs, Beckham, Butt and Scholes were and possibly never will be. O'Shea and Ronaldo were the only promising young talents to emerge from last season.
Their weakness is in midfield because they used to have Giggs, Keane, Scholes and Beckham all enjoying their best years, Giggs is more hit and miss these days, Keane's influence is fading, Beckham has gone, although I still think Scholes is a great player for them. Ferguson has sorted his defence and his attack but the midfielders that have carried them for the last 10 years have their best years behind them and the youngsters coming through don't look capable of replacing them. Midfield will definitely be his transfer priority next summer and I think he knows he will have to fork out this time. |
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| spec |
| quote: | Originally posted by evil_bastard
Ferguson made a mistake 12 months ago selling Beckham and bringing in the likes of Kleberson, Djemba, Bellion, Howard. Some people rate Howard but I see him as a decent shot stopper with potential at best, and he's made a few costly errors in only 12 months.
Ferguson made his name when the so-called 'class of 92' emerged; Giggs, Scholes, Beckham, Butt, the Neville brothers, they all came through the youth system, and Keane was also signed. This young squad of players dominated the Premiership for the best part of a decade. But now they are getting towards the end of their careers and long term replacements need to be found. I believe that while Ferguson deserves credit for putting faith in those youngsters back then, he was also lucky that such an excellent batch of young players emerged at that time, and now he is trying to replicate that success. His signings 12 months ago were evidence of this and so far it has failed. Djemba Djemba, Howard, Kleberson, Fletcher, Richardson, they're not of the quality that Giggs, Beckham, Butt and Scholes were and possibly never will be. O'Shea and Ronaldo were the only promising young talents to emerge from last season.
Their weakness is in midfield because they used to have Giggs, Keane, Scholes and Beckham all enjoying their best years, Giggs is more hit and miss these days, Keane's influence is fading, Beckham has gone, although I still think Scholes is a great player for them. Ferguson has sorted his defence and his attack but the midfielders that have carried them for the last 10 years have their best years behind them and the youngsters coming through don't look capable of replacing them. Midfield will definitely be his transfer priority next summer and I think he knows he will have to fork out this time. |
I think you should be banned for your honest appraisal of ManU's prospects.
Its not allowed here. |
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| DJ-Fuq |
| quote: | Originally posted by spec
DJ-Fuq: Watch some football. |
I watch almost every match i can, sounds like u dont.
| quote: | | Shall I bookmark this thread for when ManU don't qualify for the champions league next year? |
u really are clueless. |
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| spec |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ-Fuq
I watch almost every match i can, sounds like u dont.
u really are clueless. |
Fancy a wager wit? |
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| raveed |
| quote: | Originally posted by spec
When an English club starts signing English players you just know they are running out of options. See Arsenal and Chelsea for examples of the reverse strategy working.
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Your an idiot ... managers obviously tend to favor players from the same country as themselves and the players themselves are more comfortable working with a manager from the same country ... wenger is from france and the main reason for arsenals success is because of the french talent they possess in henry , viera and pires. The moment Benitez took over at liverpool there seems to be a swarm of spanish players coming in... before that houllier was also brining in french players ... when mourinho took over at cheslea most of his signings were from porto his former club ... ferguson is from scotland where there is all talent so obviously it becomes more difficult for him to bring in players from other nations and thus England is his best bet. |
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| raveed |
| quote: | Originally posted by spec
The treatment of Beckham, who I don't rate that highly anyway because he can't tackle or beat a man, by Sir Alex was nothing short of disgraceful, and this has lead to ManU struggling to sign anybody decent. I mean Harry Kewell even chose the totally Liverpool to play for instead of ManU, now thats saying something!
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And yet beckham advised rooney to go to manchester united because ferguson will be able to make him show his true potential... beckham still acknowledges that fergie made him the player he is today and the only reason they had a fallout was because ferguson is a strictly no nonsense manager and didnt like beckham becoming a bigger celebrity of the field than on it because he felt it would make him larger than life and take away his focus from manchester united. And he was right because not only did beckham have a mediocre season with real madrid, he also ed up royally at euro 2004 and has since decided to cut down on his modelling in order to focus more on football and it appears hes getting back on track if his performance against Ukraine is anything to go bye.
Realize one thing my friend, you are just one person and although i respect your opinion, it doesnt matter jack because you are criticising the club with the biggest following around the globe. A club cant be expected to dominate football forever(look at liverpool) and there are always times where a club goes through a period of transition and we are obviously going through one right now as age is catching up with the players who made manchester united the best club in the world over the 90's. When Ferguson took over at manchester united we were a struggling mid table club and your a twit for underestimating the laurels he has bought in since then. In a way Im kinda glad that manchester united arnt considerd the best club in the world anymore because atleast it will eliminate all the so called fans who only supported us because of all the trohies we kept winning and the true fans wont unnecessarily be called glory hunters anymore. |
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| DJ-Fuq |
| quote: | Originally posted by spec
Fancy a wager wit? |
maybe |
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| torontotrance |
Spec's near the end of his allowable idiocy on TA and believe me..some of us are completely fed up with the bashing and pathetic comments...so spec play nice or you won't be playing at all ever
anyway about Manchester United
Beckham was always a distraction and overated in my book, he is a good player but he just never seemed to completely fit in and he was sold, which I had no problem with.
We are middle of the table, 4 games into a 38 game season, good thinking there spec, the season ends in May and as far as I know, no one has ever won the title 4 games into a season, so grow up.
Manchester United's problem has been defence, we could always score enough goals but we gave up too many, make the defence amazing and then usually the rest takes care of itself. I don't know why Fergie got Rooney personally, he is a gifted striker but we have Ruud (who is getting a high salary, so he is obviously going to get the majority of the playing time, as long as he is healthy and his record speaks for itself.
Now about spec saying Manchester United did not buy a world class player in the last few years, let's go down the list shall we?
Barthezz was a world class keeper, when we bought him. He was the keeper for a team that won the world cup and the euro cup, he played well.
Ruud was bought some years ago, are you saying that he is not good enough? His record speaks for itself and in most lists of the best strikers in Europe, he is the top 10 and he is world class.
Rio Ferdinand was a world class player, always played for England, he was bought as well
the other argument is why should Manchester United buy all the world class players, when you can buy some and develop others. David Beckham was developed by us, so was Nicky Butt and Paul Scholes
Spec, your lame trolling is getting tiresome and your opinions don't hold any water anymore, you have lost your touch. |
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| Billabong |
| quote: | | Grow up, and grow a dick. |
Excellent extension of your factless argument spec.
| quote: | | Shall I bookmark this thread for when ManU don't qualify for the champions league next year? |
The fact is that that we have qualified every season, and we have broken the record for the most consecutive apperances speakes for itself. Also as a proper fan, I can say that I would rather see the careful developement of younger players and concentration on the EPL.
| quote: | | The treatment of Beckham, who I don't rate that highly anyway because he can't tackle or beat a man, by Sir Alex was nothing short of disgraceful |
Alex sold beckham because his ability was dropping, and it seems that his self obsessed need for constant adverstisement, was getting in the way of what really mattered, the football. It was a consiencous decision to cash in on a player. While it was not handled well, look at worse cases, ie the patrik veira incident. Arsenal push up the transfer fee at the last minutes, which puts of real, then patrik says "oh i always wanted to stay at arsenal". Seems like you are just picking holes, when there are giant one everywhere else.
| quote: | | this has lead to ManU struggling to sign anybody decent |
Ruud, Smith, Rooney, Saha.
All players that are either in their countries squad, or got call ups after joining manchester united, so that theory in itself, is bollocks.
| quote: | | When an English club starts signing English players you just know they are running out of options. See Arsenal and Chelsea for examples of the reverse strategy working. |
Is that why wenger wished he had the money to sign rooney, and even said if he hadn't have signed reyes, he would of signed rooney in a heart beat. Thats what mourihnio rates lampard so highly, and is working on his ability this season. Again you are full of on that one.
| quote: | | Look at the ManU midfield for an example of exactly how they are |
There is nothing wrong with the midfield. Ronaldo got called up to the portugese squad, and man u are having a hard time keeping him from playing in all their internations, so wheres your substances there. Dj Dj hasnt played in the premiership much, and is just settling in, he didnt cost as much, and is a very good buy for the money. Keane has had a few unfortunant injuries, and with anyone as old as he is, his ability will not be as good as the peak period, usually 28-31, but his outstanding for someone of his age. Scholes was our own developed talent, and has been instrumental during his united career, again you lable him a player because he can't tackle. You do know there are many other sides to a player's game spec??
It just seems like you are picking holes for no reason. All teams have problems. But your points are just total bull. Your arguments are backed up by weak points, and most of them have no substance. You just seem like a trouble seeker on these boards. You show blatant direspect, and resort to name calling when someone submits an argument which contradicts what you've said.
I suggest that if you have opinions to put across, you back them up with proper facts and arguments, not weakly dressed opinions. |
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| Frase |
Well for the ones who said Rooneys crap or overated, he showed in Euro 2004 how capable he was. The fact that he didnt show that kinda form at Everton just shows that the team behind him werent giving Rooney the service he needed. Hopefully he'll show his true potential at united.
As for the too many strikers comment i see Rooney sitting behind the front two, not playing as an out and out striker like Van Nistelrooy.
We should be looking to replace Roy Keane? Are you on smack or something. We've found the lad. Purchased from Celtic in summer, Liam Miller is more than adaquate. |
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