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the kobe accuser (pg. 2)
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| Siang |
| yea Dj_Bod, I meant the guy above your initial post also, not you. Sorry for the mix up |
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| ShadoWolf |
| wow there are some really stupid people here :rolleyes: :rolleyes: |
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| DJ_Bod |
| quote: | Originally posted by Siang
yea Dj_Bod, I meant the guy above your initial post also, not you. Sorry for the mix up |
It's alright. I was just confused (it's easy to do when I'm at work) |
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| N|te-L|fe |
| Conspiracy.. just everywhere, Conspiracyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! arrgh:whip: |
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| torontotrance |
| It's pathetic in North American law these days and this case showed all about the flaws in the system. A girl gets raped in her mind, yet she is the one put on trial by Bryant's defence team, since when did getting raped by someone become a crime by the victim. Our laws are so twisted because we have these morons who cry foul when the criminals' rights are violated but no one seems to give a crap that the victim had his or her rights violated in the first place by the criminal, that's why charges were laid. I bet most of you think that she was a gold digging whore that never got raped thinking she was after Kobe's money. The poor girl would have been grilled by the defence about her sexual history and everything, since when did your sexual history factor into being raped. Rape is all about you saying no and then the person having sex against your will. When did how many men you sleep with actually make a damn of a difference, the question is you were raped or you were not. North America is backwards, we are too concerned with the criminal's rights but not the victim's right (if they are still alive) or their family and loved ones' right to seek justice. Kobe will always be a rapist in my book, even thought the case did not go to trial. If he was'nt a star, this case would not have made any news and she would have been just another statistic, which is pathetic and the criminal would have got life in prison. There were 3 leaks of information by the court people in the case, which got out and tainted the people and the girl thought she would not get a fair trial, it would end in acquittal and she did not want to be on trial herself. Since when did getting raped and being the victim constitute you being on trial, that's why America and Canada are backwards. The way I look at it, if you are convicted of a rape, your dick should be cut off then you cannot tape again. This case shows how bad criminal rights have become, they get more rights than the victims that is just plain wrong. John Walsh put it best, being someone who knows about the entire process, he got mistreated by the cops, the courts and everything and he says we have it backwards, the victim's rights come first but at least he is doing something about it, taking scumbags off the street. |
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| torontotrance |
| But if you had sex before you got raped, rape is still rape, it does not matter about it. The question comes down to...did you say no and did he continue and did you get raped by Kobe or not. See Kobe's defence team can say all they want about getting a fair trial but when did your past make a damn of difference unless you were crying rape all the time. People have sympathy for Kobe but I don't, he reeped what he sowed and he will get taken apart in the civil trial, he will pay for his actions. OJ got off but got taken apart in the civil trial. Kobe's team was going to trash the poor girl anyway, her life would have been on trial but it was kobe and his actions that should have been on trial but that's how ass backwards our countries have become. The defence has a legal right to question problems but their rights have gone way too far. No rape victim should have their damn life put on trial but that's why we have crackheads like the ACLU, who just bitch for criminals and their rights. Your rights go down the drain, the minute you violate someone else's |
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| JayD |
| quote: | ^^ Paragraphs would be good.
I think the major concern and question was, if you were sexually assaulted, why did you have (was it two or three) more sexual encounters with men or a man post.. If I were sexually assaulted, I wouldn't conduct in anymore sexual acctivities. I would go straight to the police. Maybe it was the question that
I understand she may have been scared, but having two other different types of seaman in your ** post the fact that you were just sexually assaulted raises some questions.
Rape is a serious offense and should not be taken lightly. If Kobe was guilty then damn well he should have been prosecuted.. If not then he should not have. |
My post before it got ed.
| quote: | | But if you had sex before you got raped, rape is still rape, it does not matter about it. |
She had sex after.
There could've been the possiblity that they had sex, and she could've walked out of thier like ", I was just rapped". Definitly no dispute in that.. But like I said, the substantial evidence post the fact that she walked out and was like ", I was just rapped" would have resulted in contacting authorities... Not having sex with other men. It kind of mess's w/ evidence.
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| torontotrance |
| I never said that the evidence was'nt a mess but you see the point that I'm making here, kobe's team immediately turned it into pointing the finger at the accuser, it's ass backwards. Since when did getting raped, being a victim make you a criminal. The case did one thing tho, it got a lot of people angry at the process and I expect more laws to be passed against crap like this. Kobe was on trial, not the girl and we should remember that, she may have been a whore and slept around but that does not diminish her accusation of rape. Being a whore does not negate the circumstances nor the rape. |
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| igottaknow |
| quote: | Originally posted by torontotrance
I never said that the evidence was'nt a mess but you see the point that I'm making here, kobe's team immediately turned it into pointing the finger at the accuser, it's ass backwards. Since when did getting raped, being a victim make you a criminal. The case did one thing tho, it got a lot of people angry at the process and I expect more laws to be passed against crap like this. Kobe was on trial, not the girl and we should remember that, she may have been a whore and slept around but that does not diminish her accusation of rape. Being a whore does not negate the circumstances nor the rape. |
spot on, too bad money always wins |
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| torontotrance |
If it was a 25 yr old middle class guy, he would have got 10 years
If it was a 25 yr old black man, life in prison
the system has more flaws than michael jackson |
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| JayD |
| quote: | Originally posted by torontotrance
I never said that the evidence was'nt a mess but you see the point that I'm making here, kobe's team immediately turned it into pointing the finger at the accuser, it's ass backwards. Since when did getting raped, being a victim make you a criminal. The case did one thing tho, it got a lot of people angry at the process and I expect more laws to be passed against crap like this. Kobe was on trial, not the girl and we should remember that, she may have been a whore and slept around but that does not diminish her accusation of rape. Being a whore does not negate the circumstances nor the rape. |
Well they are the defense.. And they'll do whatever they can to defend even if it's not morally right. Look at the Scot Peterson trial, most of the substantial evidence that the prosecutors are using is on the affair he had.. You can say the same about that.. Alla since when does being a bad husband and father = youself a murderer? Get me?
Things are ed and I agree that things need to be better handled. You have to remember that it was the prosecution in the case (for Kobe) that really ed up here and which ultimatly resulted in the case getting closed. Not the defense.
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| tranceaholic |
| quote: | Originally posted by torontotrance
If it was a 25 yr old middle class guy, he would have got 10 years
If it was a 25 yr old black man, life in prison
the system has more flaws than michael jackson |
well first of all based on what do u think she DID get raped? her word? scond rapes is a horrific ordeal and when u get raped ur emotionaly unstable and cant stand the thought of rape so if she a rape victim how does she get it on with other guys right there after..also why would koby want to rape her, he would get any chick he wants too.. |
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