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Using cracked versions of software (pg. 3)
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| DjSimonB |
| quote: | Originally posted by State of Matter
It has been tested and proven that in many instances, people are more likely to buy software/music/games after testing those products than if they were to simply buy based on word of mouth.
IMO, if a person downloads cracked software, plays around on it, likes it, and buys it, everybody wins. The individual has found a product that he enjoys, the software company still gets the money. To me the only problem is when people download cracked software and then continue to use it without ever intending to purchase it.
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But saying that is like the pirated mp3 argument - there's plenty do-gooders out there who'll download a few tracks from an album, or a new trance tune, then if they like it enough buy the CD/vinyl, or otherwise get rid of the mp3. But there's at least as many people who'll download things, enjoy them, and never intend to buy the release, you can't assume everyone who downloads software is doing it for evaluation.
I can understand the reasons for downloading though, especially among young producers like myself who have ambitions but no job. I think that if you get pirated software and end up using it a lot and making good stuff with it, you should really buy it. I know that I'd feel pretty guilty if I went through life and spent many hours using software, and made tracks with it that impressed people and got played out. And let's face it, making software that has the capacity to make professional-sounding music on a computer is a pretty big achievement and the people who can do that probably worked hard to make it and deserve paid... I'm not saying that downloading software is wrong altogether (hell I've done it, so it would make me a hypocrite anyway), but you've got to show some respect to the makers.
Unfortunately this isn't a perfect world and not all people aren't going to do that, but every little helps... |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjSimonB
But saying that is like the pirated mp3 argument - there's plenty do-gooders out there who'll download a few tracks from an album, or a new trance tune, then if they like it enough buy the CD/vinyl, or otherwise get rid of the mp3. But there's at least as many people who'll download things, enjoy them, and never intend to buy the release, you can't assume everyone who downloads software is doing it for evaluation.
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But majority of that downloader group wouldn't had bought the software/track anyway so does that really count as a lost sale? |
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| nzo |
So, consider that person A uses purely warez, he is young and earning very little - there is no way he could ever afford the software. Person A has talent, he gradually gains skill. After a while he is signed, selling records, making a decent amount of money. Person A then decides to purchase all the software that he partially owes his success to. If he had decided he didn't want to be a 'thief' he would've never bought the software and his music would be still in his head, locked away by his lack of finances. Of course as his career furthers he may spend more and more.
ALso, you can't compare stealing a Ferrari to dl'ing warez, how many times have you seen a Ferrari multiply into many many more Ferrari's? |
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| Neeldan |
| Conclusion is only one: nobody buys software only for fun. It is too expensive to buy only for fun !!! I will buy original software when I will become profesional producer and my track would be signed. Only then I will do that. Next day I will go to shop for original software what I use |
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| Jarjar |
I completely agree with most people writing in this thread.
Downloading all the stuff you need and using it for "ever": WRONG.
Downloading it to try it out (when there's no useful demos etc): Illegal but not wrong in the same way as above.
Stealing cars: How is this even similar to downloading software? |
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| Neeldan |
| I'm still laughing about this example (stealing Ferrari) :) |
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| retiro |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cryogenic
So does that justify stealing ? What an idiot.
I would like a Ferrari, but cant afford, so i have the right to steal one ?
If you can't afford it, then you don't have the right to it, and certanly not the right to steal it.
Its the most basic form of law and moral. Get a grip.
And it is still very illegal, and crimminal to steal something, regardless of anyone not directly losing money.
Can we all rob and steal from rich people then ?
But i guess its hopeless trying to talk sense into ignorant download-everything-generation-kids like you. |
How old are you? You sound so childish and pathetic - I really pity people like yourself! |
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| Boomer187 |
no one even mentions how much advertising warez does. So much good software gets their name out there with warez.
however it is never cool to make money off of warez of any kind. |
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| conexion |
Reading these posts I can only come to one conclusion.
That these are the rantings of spoilt brats who want everything given to them on a plate!
Sorry if that seems harsh, but to me thats the truth.
Do you think guitar based bands go out and steal their guitars, basses and drum kits!!!! No! they work and save and buy ty secong hand equipment to learn on and gradually buy better equipment as they can afford it.
When I get signed I'll buy what I've stole! sorry but the majority of you wont get signed, and thats the sad truth of the matter.
If you really enjoy producing music and want the best you'll be prepared to work and save for want you want. Don't try and justify stealing software buy the fact thats it too expensive. I started with freeware sequencers and vsti's and upgraded as and when I could afford it and that meant going without some of lifes little luxuries, such as going out every weekend, having a decent car. In fact I havent got a car!
I think some of you need to grow up and face the fact that life isn't easy! |
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| Euphorica |
| I think it depends. MOst of the software is super pricey and for lots is just wanted to screw around with and try to make something that sounds alright. If your looking to get into it heavily then I would hope you would buy it BUT if your just screwing around I dont see a problem with it. |
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| Subtle |
if u simple don`t have the option to download a certain track or program.. u would have to buy it now wouldnt you... :whip:
that is why all file sharing program must be eliminated (impossible I know)
in the times before the internet.. u would have to buy what u wanted or know somebody who hadd that certain thing.. to get it!!!
its the web that is destroying alot of the music buisness..!!! :mad:
(and please dont give me like: "web is good for promoting and information blablabla.." that we all know..)
my point is that the web is more harm than good!!! |
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| Neeldan |
| I repeat once again. I don't buy sotware before I'll check it. I don't have money to spend it on left and right. We could buy 100cd's in shop but for what if you won't use all of this stuff. So first checking by download and then buy. If you mean about making money on warez software, this is really stealing. Of course the world will be great if we buy original sotware no matter for what, but who do this ?. Problem is like always - money |
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