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Let The Battle Begin Tiesto VS. Armin Van Buuren (pg. 5)
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| djarecebo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dave Piazza
The best party I have been by far was Tiesto - House of Blues 2003 ! If someone recorded this you must listen to it! MASSIVE
That was f#ckin insane !!
That is what really pushed me into becoming a Tiesto whore and what ultimetly led to my major dispppointment with him at his last performace here. He programmed the 2003 set beautifully. The energy was amazing. He moved around within styles gracefully. He went from dirty sticky floors to some booty shakin chicago style house music. He just was dropin massive track after massive track. He was just having so much fun as were we !! He was so enguaged with the crowd it was heart warming! Everyone was jumping around and dancin; the floor felt like it was going to collapse !! I will remeber that night forever.
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Don't forget when he dropped Yahel - Voyage thanks to tom :) Definately one of the best tiesto shows ive witnessed! |
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| ctprincess |
i know that this shouldn't make a difference, but at least armin appreciates his fans - always signing stuff, taking pictures and coming to meet-up's to chit chat with the chicago TA's.
the last tiesto was in town he was more interested in the dj hoes by the booth (i was by the booth, but i am DEFINITELY NOT a dj hoe for those who know me - its just my spot :)) and paying more attention to bad boy bill in the booth - there was no mixing - just slapping on a record. it seemed like tiesto was like "oh yeah - i am dj'ing so i have to at least appear to be doing something" and i don't think he stayed around to sign autographs etc.
i think that is why armin continues to endear himself to his fans and why his shows have continually grown in numbers to where this past weekend it was at capacity. |
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| suneel |
| quote: | Originally posted by djarecebo
Don't forget when he dropped Yahel - Voyage |
yahel such a talented musician!! this guy has real talent. watch out :whip: |
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| suneel |
| quote: | Originally posted by ctprincess
the last tiesto was in town he was more interested in the dj hoes by the booth |
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| XtremeNINja27 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd!
where in my post did it say i go for trainwrecks? IMO its not about chasing perfection. If Tiesto s it up a few times mid-set... i'd prefer to see him for three hours over armin.
Why?
Cos of the energy and charisma Tiesto embues. THAT is also a part of Djing... ANYONE can beatmatch given the natural talent or the endless hours of practice.
No-one can take away style.
For that Armin is a weak second to everybody. Taking parts of everyone else's act and merging them is just a way of saying u ain't got ur own style.
One thing i'd admire from PvD (despite hating the sets) is that he's moved completely away from wishywashy armin fills his sets with. Tiesto plays similar tracks... and i'll always be a tiesto fan. Even if he quit tomorrow i wont suddenly jump on the Armin bandwagon like all u mofo's - whats the point. I get to see everything he does already at Tiesto shows.
So mixing seamlessly perfect sets for a whole 2 hour radio show every week is now the focus of becoming a good dj? Well - people need to see the big picture. Armin can come onto the stage intent on mixing 10 progressive records into one another for the crowds ultimate build up - and i'd give him a clap... just wake me up first. |
Its nice to hear an opinion from someone who gets to see all the best performances You lucky bastard:whip: ,I also find AVB's sets flat out boring.Cant put my finger on why, I was wondering if you are going to Tiestos concert next weekend and what is your fav festival , I was looking at going to Sensation .I agree too, with the other quote about Johan Gielen and Ferry are on top now. |
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| XtremeNINja27 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ctprincess
i know that this shouldn't make a difference, but at least armin appreciates his fans - always signing stuff, taking pictures and coming to meet-up's to chit chat with the chicago TA's.
the last tiesto was in town he was more interested in the dj hoes by the booth (i was by the booth, but i am DEFINITELY NOT a dj hoe for those who know me - its just my spot :)) and paying more attention to bad boy bill in the booth - there was no mixing - just slapping on a record. it seemed like tiesto was like "oh yeah - i am dj'ing so i have to at least appear to be doing something" and i don't think he stayed around to sign autographs etc.
i think that is why armin continues to endear himself to his fans and why his shows have continually grown in numbers to where this past weekend it was at capacity. |
Not to sound defensive on tiesto's part, but his base audience as well as most DJ's is in Europe, The states is a hip-hop driven country loving culture where thugs and gangbangers are celebrated for ridin on DUB's and pourin a forty for his fallen homie,But its amazing mostly how popular Hip-Hop is because a majority of its audience is suburban white kids who think they understand a black person's struggle in the ghetto while they are listening to Jay-Z or Notorious BIG driving in mommies benz:mad: .Now if i were a major DJ i sure wouldnt drop my A-list stuff in a club in america either.There just would not be enough buzz/exposure about the tune.Dance music (fromwhat i can tell but never been to) Is a part of the culture in Europe but mostly the Netherlands.Until dance music becomes more mainstream which i know most of you guys probably wont like, We are not going to get the good performances.Just my sheltered opinion:D |
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| lücid |
| quote: | Originally posted by XtremeNINja27
where thugs and gangbangers are celebrated for ridin on DUB's and pourin a forty for his fallen homie |
do you realize how ignorant you sound?
well, i guess you did say it's your "sheltered opinion" :stongue: |
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| MrSquirrel |
| quote: | Originally posted by lücid
do you realize how ignorant you sound?
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Ignorance is bliss?
MrS |
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| XtremeNINja27 |
| quote: | Originally posted by lücid
do you realize how ignorant you sound?
well, i guess you did say it's your "sheltered opinion" :stongue: |
You gotta be kidding?:haha: Turn on MTV for five seconds and tell me how many rap / hip-hop videos you see? how many gold teeth,Girls with big A$$es shaking it in the camera and how many exotic cars that the rappers rented for the shoot to glorify gansta life.You realize i have just described half of all rap videos.Ignorant? Come on, When i said sheltered opinion i was referring to the dance culture in europe. I know way to many kids who think they are tough s?!t because they listen to rap.There are a couple exceptions to this such as Outkast who do not rap about one topic in every song.Ignorant about Rap? You guys rip on Tiesto for his shameless self promotion (which i agree can be excessive) but compare him to someone like Puffy,Fabolous or Kanye West there is just no comparison,Every song they mention they are the one putting down the rhymes and spitting some mad lyrics.Now im not mad or anything but if you are calling me ignorant about something dont just say "you're ignorant" and leave it at that give me some reasoning to back it up, I'll admit if Im wrong but let me know why you think i am wrong, Oh your right i forgot to mention all the hoes and how pimpin aint eazy. Just remember gurl hayt tha gaym dont hayt tha playa,:crazy: |
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| XtremeNINja27 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrSquirrel
Ignorance is bliss?
MrS |
By the way , Ignorance is bliss? should be a statement , NOT a question:stongue: |
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| tubularbills |
| quote: | Originally posted by lücid
... anyway, what makes him a good DJ? he interacts with the crowd, he is a super-friendly guy, he knows how to bring the energy levels up and down, and it's just obvious he's having a great time behind the decks. watching the DJ have as much fun as all his fans in the crowd can really add a positive vibe to the entire night, imo. oh, and he can beatmatch too. pretty amazing for a DJ! heh.
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Agreed.
I saw Armin for the first time ever this summer [May 2004, @ Vision]. Not only was it spectacular to actually see him live, but to see him interact w/ the crowd. He always had a smile on his face and seemed to be having fun. The tracklist was pretty smooth too. |
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| wolverine16 |
| quote: | Originally posted by XtremeNINja27
Not to sound defensive on tiesto's part, but his base audience as well as most DJ's is in Europe, The states is a hip-hop driven country loving culture where thugs and gangbangers are celebrated for ridin on DUB's and pourin a forty for his fallen homie,But its amazing mostly how popular Hip-Hop is because a majority of its audience is suburban white kids who think they understand a black person's struggle in the ghetto while they are listening to Jay-Z or Notorious BIG driving in mommies benz:mad: .Now if i were a major DJ i sure wouldnt drop my A-list stuff in a club in america either.There just would not be enough buzz/exposure about the tune.Dance music (fromwhat i can tell but never been to) Is a part of the culture in Europe but mostly the Netherlands.Until dance music becomes more mainstream which i know most of you guys probably wont like, We are not going to get the good performances.Just my sheltered opinion:D |
Ummm, I'm wicked confused by this. I did pre-game prior to seeing Tiesto, but I still recall paying roughly $40 for admission and Vision was at capacity, but he shouldn't waste his time playing good tracks or try because EDM isn't as popular as other types of music in the U.S? I recall DJ Mag's bio that accompanied his #1 ranking noting that he was especially well received by crowds in the U.S. There's so much variety in music today and there are people who are as excited about seeing Brooks & Dunn or Eminem as I am about seeing Paul Van Dyk.
Tiesto & others bring in large crowds who are greatly into EDM and to say it's not worth their time to put on a good performance because Nelly is more popular in this country is beyond me. Yeah I can see putting extra thought and care into preparing for TiC or the opening ceremonies at the olympics because they are rather special events, but that doesn't mean sold out events in the U.S. aren't worth any effort. Overall, most people have had very little exposure to EDM and if a big DJ/Producer plays before a capacity crowd here and puts together a solid set, those people not only will return the next time, but are likely tell their friends about it too. First time I saw PvD I went by myself, had a wonderful time and played some of his tracks for some friends afterward, who wound up going the next time, despite never hearing EDM before I mentioned how impressed I was. As Ludacris would say, while apparently he's riding on DUBs, it's about "Word of Mouf." |
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