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Whats the best manner to build a tracklist for a set or an album"?
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| PlasticSoul |
Well, I used the "search" button but I dont ve found nothing interesting till now...
Can u help me? Or give some tips?
What I ve read about or I think:
- Finish the set with an anthem or classic, is it ok?
- Put the best track in the middle, never in first, obvious.
- Mix vocal tracks together, I mean, in sequence...
- 30 secs is ok when beatmatching.
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- How do I mix styles"? What do ya think if I follow this sequence:
(start) -> prog -> uplifting -> hard (some more "tech" stuff-> uplifting -> (end)
- Differences between sets or album tracklists? It`s common people say when live I feel the crowd and choose the next track , can I do it when mixing in my bedroom? following myself (the crowd at the moment) expecting other people feel the same when listening my mix?
- Last: any links about this"?
Thanks attention.
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| flavdave |
I've only been mixing live on my college radio show for about 2 months now, but this is what I do, given the fact that I don't have too many records to work with (about 60). I usually start off with some slower tracks. I think if I start off with something uplifting, something hard, or a classic, then I have no place to go in the set. So I like to put some progressive trance or house, maybe some breaks in the beginning.
I try not to put too many vocal tracks back to back. At the very most, I will do two vocal tracks, but other than that I try to alternate, or maybe go two instrumentals then a vocal. This is just a personal preference considering there are only a few vocal tracks that I really like.
I like to end my sets on a classic, something like For an Angel (E-Werk Mix) or Sparkles (Transa Remix). For me, these tracks are just too good to be followed by anything else.
Pretty much my sets increase steadily in terms of bpm and energy, but once I get some more records I will try to add more peaks and valleys in my set. I only have a two hour radio show and I don't DJ anywhere else, so I think what I'm doing right now is fine. |
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| ARNATINE |
I like to Finish whit hard tunes
Is really weird the change techno to uplifting(atleast to me)
To start a set use some uplifting and then go to prog... whit the uplifting u can get a nice opening
How do I mix styles"? What do ya think if I follow this sequence
is really hard to me...do this kind of thing....but do it if you can
Put the best track in the middle, never in first, obvious (agree)but u can start whit your best tune:D |
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| Floorfiller |
| just play a bunch of good that mixes well and flows nicely...there is no equation of genres that make a set of cd good..you should just play what goes good together. i suppose most people like to start out less energetic and work up to something, but i dunno...i say just pic a great intro track and let it loose from there... |
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| Laushinameee |
| stop thinking about things like this too much is my advice. if You are thinking about it & asking questions then you arent really on the right track. Do whatever you like, not what people tell you in here, apart from me obviously. Just forget all these stupid 'rules', unless you want to be yet another wannabe trance dj like most of the others caught up in all the nonsense like this. |
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| montana |
| logicly you go from slow tracks to fast tracks as it's easier and more pleasant on the ear to pitch up instead of pitching down. but like laushinameee & floorfiller said, do it how you like to do it and experiment |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| I only pick the opening and the finishing tracks, the rest I make up as I go along. |
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| Laushinameee |
| ending on a classic is really passe and predictable - i suggest not doing this |
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| Sand Leaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Laushinameee
ending on a classic is really passe and predictable - i suggest not doing this |
Why? As long as it isn't a too overplayed classic and the crowd likes it I really don't see the problem. |
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| Laushinameee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Why? As long as it isn't a too overplayed classic and the crowd likes it I really don't see the problem. |
its just not very original - its like starting with the standard 2/3 prog tracks then banging out tiesto tracks. Its boring & predictable & its been done - its formulaic. A lot of 'amateur djs' on here are far too hung up on becoming the next ASOT Armin style dj. Attempting to be like anyone else is the most obvious sign of you being on the wrong path. What makes these tracks 'classics' anyway? the fact that djs like armin / pvd / tiesto have all played them & 'finished' on them. It would be much better to mould out your own track that you finish on, like PvD with Dreamland a few years back, if you really must insist on having a 'finishing track'. |
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| paranoik0 |
i've wondered a bit about how do to a decent set without going the typical "build up progressively" approach, it seems to be the only way that works for me.
it also seems to be harder to play just progressive than to do a set of prog+trance: being stuck on progressive can make a set sound very "flat", without ups and downs. mixing up distinct "sub-styles" of progressive seems to be a good way to overcome this (like for example do a break between melodic tracks with something more percussive). of course, this applies to other styles, not only to progressive, 100% epic anthem sets can sound even flatter. |
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| Sand Leaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Laushinameee
its just not very original - its like starting with the standard 2/3 prog tracks then banging out tiesto tracks. A lot of 'amateur djs' on here are far too hung up on becoming the next ASOT Armin style dj. Attempting to be like anyone else is the most obvious sign of you being on the wrong path. What makes these tracks 'classics' anyway? the fact that djs like armin / pvd / tiesto have all played them & 'finished' on them. It would be much better to mould out your own track that you finish on, like PvD with Dreamland a few years back, if you really must insist on having a 'finishing track'.
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I see your point, however, I fail to see how me closing a set with Visions Of Shiva - How Much Can You Take would be like "starting with the standard 2/3 prog tracks then bang out tiesto tracks". |
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