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Kerry or Bush? (pg. 2)
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| trunks1022 |
hehehe best line/train of thought from either candidate during the debates.
bush saying essentially that if kerry fails in iraq, that iraq would be a safe haven for terrorists. hmm so what's going on in iraq now mister president? i guess u're really keeping them out at the moment ;)
my vote's for kerry. two simple reasons. i don't feel safer than i did on 9/11, and the color-coded warning system is a joke :)
there IS an unintentional funniness about bush tho... hm |
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| Bloodflower |
| wow im scared what they all did to your heads that still such alot of you vote for bush... :nervous: :nervous: |
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| Yan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Bloodflower
wow im scared what they all did to your heads that still such alot of you vote for bush... :nervous: :nervous: |
Both candidates are equally horrible. Might as well nitpick at the little issues, then. |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Bloodflower
wow im scared what they all did to your heads that still such alot of you vote for bush... :nervous: :nervous: |
Because Kerry lies alot more than Bush. Kerry has lied more in 4 months than Bush has in 4 years. |
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| Yan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
Because Kerry lies alot more than Bush. Kerry has lied more in 4 months than Bush has in 4 years. |
A shame that they're both puppets, either way. The Dem's are just really aching to get back in office. |
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| Stassi |
Bush is an
Kerry is a
neither of them are right for the job.
But in the amount of we are in right now, Kerry could only things up more, but then again, so will Bush.
I say, Vote Arnie 2008! |
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| Stassi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Bloodflower
wow im scared what they all did to your heads that still such alot of you vote for bush... :nervous: :nervous: |
I dont think switching a bad president for a worse one (a complete puppet) is good while we are at war. |
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| kid nyce |
so many valid points everyone is making - they are all good
i just like to think in the now. since 9/11 we haven't suffered any attacks on our soil which I think should be something that everyone is looking at. Whether seeing through the words during debate or what each campaign is striving for should even matter. the fact is that we can/will not tolerate any attacks on our soil. At the expense of our citizens by paying more tax dollars or sacrificing rights to abortion or opinions. We shouldn't nitpick the ideology that each side is representing and focus on the fact of living. Yes alot of people are talking about certain points that they object to, but how can anyone object to anything if they aren't living.
I'm pro-human life thats all...whether we suffer in poverty or succeed with happiness, the fact is we are alive. Remember there are people out there who have attacked our right to live, if we can't defend that and move to elect a leader focusing on quality of living then whats the point? Bush is preserving life by preventing attacks from happening. Kerry is focusing on quality of life, how can we attribute to quality of life if someone is out to take our lives from us. |
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| Konijn Island |
| quote: | Originally posted by Bloodflower
what u mean with locked up`? |
our presidents aren't elected by the people but by a system of electors. every state has X amount of electors so if a candidate wins the popular vote in a particular state he/she gets all the electors -- it doesn't matter if a candidate wins by 1 vote or a million they get all the electors. first candidate to get 270 electoral votes wins.
since new york is heavily democratic, kerry is undoubtedly going to win the state's electors, hence he has our state "locked up." in new york (and other states that tilt heavily toward one party) you can vote for mickey mouse and it doesn't matter because the winner takes all.
on a side note, the number of people voting bush in this thread makes me glad new york isn't a swing state :nervous: |
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| Stassi |
| quote: | Originally posted by kid nyce
so many valid points everyone is making - they are all good
i just like to think in the now. since 9/11 we haven't suffered any attacks on our soil which I think should be something that everyone is looking at. Whether seeing through the words during debate or what each campaign is striving for should even matter. the fact is that we can/will not tolerate any attacks on our soil. At the expense of our citizens by paying more tax dollars or sacrificing rights to abortion or opinions. We shouldn't nitpick the ideology that each side is representing and focus on the fact of living. Yes alot of people are talking about certain points that they object to, but how can anyone object to anything if they aren't living.
I'm pro-human life thats all...whether we suffer in poverty or succeed with happiness, the fact is we are alive. Remember there are people out there who have attacked our right to live, if we can't defend that and move to elect a leader focusing on quality of living then whats the point? Bush is preserving life by preventing attacks from happening. Kerry is focusing on quality of life, how can we attribute to quality of life if someone is out to take our lives from us. |
Hes also not preserving life by sending innocent kids who signed up for the army so "the government pays for your school", but in reality all the people who have died in vain in a pointless war will never get the school funding they deserve cause they are dead.
This is a difficult election. But we need a good president, not a bad alternative to a bad president. |
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| kid nyce |
| quote: | Originally posted by Stassi
Hes also not preserving life by sending innocent kids who signed up for the army so "the government pays for your school", but in reality all the people who have died in vain in a pointless war will never get the school funding they deserve cause they are dead.
This is a difficult election. But we need a good president, not a bad alternative to a bad president. |
Agreed as I stated in my first post its totally understandable as I have friends there now and I'm sure many people do. Again I'm not pro-war nor am I against it. And as hypocritcal as it sounds if the draft was re-instated i'd be the first to move to Canada (even though it has been said that Canada will also be elected into the draft) the fact of the matter is would you want the war here on our soil or there on their soil? For me personally, confining them on their soil makes our environment much less rough.
Think about it...
if we were the smaller power
how would you feel running through the city with people in turban's shooting AKs at you. Flipped over car's buildings on fire with helicopters flying over shooting missles and machine guns? Personally, I wouldn't take that as I would be armed myself but the fact of the matter is, the war could be HERE but its not, its over there on their soil. |
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