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Power of reason screen shots (pics from J and C - Eclipse) (pg. 11)
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| DJ-Igloo |
| haha omg *passes the blunt* |
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| Derivative |
| quote: | | Those presets on the access virus and exactly what they sound like, not even as good cause theyre encoded into that player. Virus is super phat, i owned a nl3 and couldnt get leads that fat on it. with the virus its a joke with unison. |
yer i was impressed with what i knocked up on a lead 2x. but when i heard those virus presets my jaw was hanging. oh well. only 20 times the price of vanguard. i suppose i could try a stack of 20 vanguards. id have to be subtle and it would require a PC on its own to run it... |
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| trancenrg69 |
| 20 times the price of a Vanguard, nah. The vanguard is 90$ US, The Powercore pci + (single+multi license virus) is around 1000$ US. |
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| Luke Terry |
cubase locks up a lot, but the computer freezes completely when i try and use the virus, trying to make an effort to sort it today hopefully
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| Trancevision |
| quote: | Originally posted by Passiva
First of all.. All the people who are bashing Reason need to shut the up, because they don't know what they are talking about. I've used Reason for some years now and so far all my productions which are released are made with it. I used those 'big leads' trancenrg69 was talking about, and it sounded just fine. Some people were even amazed by the quality as they didn't expect it to come out of Reason.
BUT!
There's a big but here.. I've put LOTS of time in Reason to be able to achieve this quality. I can tell you, it's not easy. It begins with a simple sample. When you listen to the sample in WinAMP or just a random audioplayer it sounds nice. But when you import it into Reason, the power has gone. I've sometimes tweaked over 2 hours to get a decent kick sound. That's a waste of time imo.
Now I've switched to Cubase, just because I wanted to know what it was capable of. I had a meeting with Arizona (from Octagen & Arizona) and he learnt me the ins & outs of Cubase while working on a collaboration. I was amazed by the power of Cubase.
- Going back to importing a kicksample; The kick sounded fine right away. Hardly any EQing was needed!
- Then the possibility of using VSTs. You can use more sounds and more effects which is great!!
- Audio support. I've had a Roland JP-8000 for some time now, but I never used it a production. I've tried multisampling it to import it into Reason, but the quality sucks. So I'm glad I can finally use my synth.
- People who still want to use Reason have no problem.. just ReWire it!
On top of all this, Cubase has a better audio engine. Mixing is alot more easy than in Reason. If you have 20/30 sounds playing simultaneously it's hard to get a perfect mix in Reason. In Cubase it's a different story, I can tell..
So, I'm not bashing Reason at all. It has helped me alot and it's a great application. It's easy to start with, but eventually you will end up at the point that you want more, which you can get in Cubase.
I hope this helped abit. And please stop bashing every app you don't use because you think yours is better...:haha:
Galen |
Really a big thanks for that summary. Since months now people became furious and childish when I mentioned certain quality problems with Reason.
Reason is still a great anyway: I use it for working out some ideas or creating some really weird loops, which have a quite special
sounding.:gsmile:
BUT, if they ever improve over all sounding quality in Reason it would be a production monster. I even would pay some extra money for a Reason Powercore Version, with lots of improved fxs and better sounding quality...
Trancevision |
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| quote: | | 20 times the price of a Vanguard, nah. The vanguard is 90$ US, The Powercore pci + (single+multi license virus) is around 1000$ US. |
sorry im doing it by uk prices. virus c retails over here for about £1100. virus kc for about £1400. vanguard retails for £60. i use the virus c, not the powercore virus because the audio demos i heard were for the virus c hardware unit. i dont know how that compares to the powercore (although i hear theres little noticable difference except on paper). |
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| kopi_luwak |
U want to impress ous?cuze if not I dont see any point to post a picture....
Kopi =o. |
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| Sebraa |
| quote: | Originally posted by John
agreed, although i have one more thing to say to all reason haters out there:
I USE REASON FOR FUN, I DONT ING CARE CUBASE/LOGIC/EJAY/MS PAINT/PAC MAN/SIMS 348973 AND DUKE NUMEM 2D ARE 3289732894789324897893248973273289789064376418907643587643258976432564432154564897643258976643258917
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so please stop telling how bad reason is. there's no point. i will have fun with it anyway:)
John
ps another useless post by me. way to go john (Y) |
But I see in your taskbar CUBASE SX icon :D
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| Flashback |
I use cubase sx2 and have to say it is purely amazing. The only thing that could be considered better might be pro tools, since the audio editor is slightly more convient. I wouldn't say it's better in anyway, but the midi is supposedly better in cubase.
You can load as many plugings as your computer can handle in cubase, just like reason. The thing with cubase vs. protools is the system is able to carry over somewhat vs. protools where you must buy new hardware every six years. With cubase, all you have to upgrade is the software, possibly to work with the next operating system. Since the hardware with cubase is designed to work with any product, you really win with cubase. I tried sonar but it just seemed sorta cheesy to me, I liked the technical edge to cubase.
Reason looks cool and all, but since you folks say the audio engine sucks, I completely lost interest.
Cubase is totally cool because it has a audio editor, pool for audio files, you can drop the audio files from the pool into the project window and it just makes a new track automatically. Since you should be making everything in audio anyways, way easier to get a professional sound than working with midi tracks, unless you have compressors and reverb hardware units to process the sound in realtime? I suppose there is flexibilty that makes reason cool because it can be programmed in midi and more easily changed.I disagree with midi because everything ends up in audio anyways, so why not just samples and loops, canceling out the tedious task of recording the songs after they are produced. Unless you are recording the whole mix as one track, which I find makes worse results then idependently recording each track and then mixing down the audio files. |
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| I_LUV_PVD |
| I hope I don't stir a whole bunch of people up again, but I must say that I use Logic and I am very happy with it. It also has the drag-and-drop "audio pool" you've mentioned. It ships with a bunch of native synths and effects, some of which are quite good (ES2 can be very suited to trance). Anyways, before I start sounding like a commercial (too late) I just wanted to say that if you've been running reason or some such on a Mac, and are looking to upgrade your software, look no further. Yeah, the loearning curve can be frustrating but once everything starts to make sense, you'll be like, "where has this program been all my life?" Trust me, the steep price tag is, IMHO, worth it. |
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| DanAX |
| after seeing all these pics, i think i am going to quite trying to produce....:whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: |
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