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I Want The Old Tiesto Back (pg. 4)
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| giorg0s |
| Just compare urban train with one of his cheesy pop tunes now like Just be or smth :( |
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| sleepydragon |
| why? i just want him to go away |
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| clubbersking2001 |
Tiesto for me has been pure this year. dunno how he is number 1.
The only decent thing he has done is his concert really. |
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| djdimensions |
| Yes i second thisthread iwant the tiesto that played in 1999 -2001 |
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| Joost |
| Remember he made Stray Dog - Mirror :D I will keep respect for him :) |
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| generic |
I used to like such-and-such before they became popular, now they are all commercial and have sold out
i'll always think of tiesto more as a producer than a dj, its just unfortunate that he got a lot of credit (as a dj) around 3 years after his peak, which is something i don't really understand
maybe if he'd gotten such recognition at the right time he'd be doing better things now
he did make some amazing tunes in 98-00, far better producer than pvd imo, and pvd is a bit now too |
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| eulerfx |
| quote: | Originally posted by giorg0s
Just compare urban train with one of his cheesy pop tunes now like Just be or smth :( |
I like "A Tear in the Open" better then "Suburban Train". Way more 'class', among other things. |
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| surfrgal |
It's awful when the artists that you love change their style and you don't like the new direction they take.
All you need to do is slide the old Tiesto mixes in the CD player, lie back and close your eyes.
That's the beauty of music, it can take you back to any time, any place. |
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| goonerjack |
Actually I'm glad there's so many Tiesto-bashers nowadays.... just leaves more room for me at his gigs :D
I'll happily admit that Tiesto isn't as good as he was back in 98/99... but then again the trance scene isn't as good as then is it? You can't blame a DJ for taking a new route as the scene changes - you have to keep with the times. To be honest, it's a no-win situation for him at the moment. People say he isn't spinning well at the moment (which, after listening to his two concerts, I completely disagree with) so he gets flamed for that. However, if he goes back to spinning like he did in 98/99 he'd be accused of living in the past and not keeping up with the music. What can he do? :rolleyes:
About the DJ-Mag top 100, it's a commercial magazine - I can buy it in any relatively large newsagent, so no way is it an 'undergound' mag. This means that anyone can vote - so the poll isn't a reflection of technical skills, it's essentially a popularity contest. Tiesto winning it doesn't mean that he's sold out - simply that he has a greater following in the more mainstream world.
But, in all honesty, who else could attract 75,000 people from all around the world for a gig? In my opinion: no-one. |
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| BelgianGuru |
| quote: | Originally posted by töbias
Don't you just hate it when people are all 'I like your old stuff better than your new stuff?"
A quick lesson in real life for those living in a cave:
1. Popular music changes over time
2. The music DJs play changes over time
3. Things progress
4. All musical artists continue to innovate, some you like the changes, some you don't.
5. Its not 1998 anymore. |
That is incorrect in this context.
Let's take Tiesto's good tunes, they were complex, they were good. Then as you call it he 'progresses' over time and his music consists of two notes repeated all over the track non-stop (I'm not talking about 643). That is not progress, that is selling out, underachieving with the intent of earning a piece of the pop-crowd's money. regardless of it being 1700 or 2004. And what you call progress then, his 'new' style, it's not progress, it's the same poppy-dance sound they have been producing for years now in Belgium, and yes it rakes in big money for the artists who produce it.
A quick lesson in real life would be something more like this :
1. The pop crowd changes taste every two or three years.
2. The music the popular crowd likes at that time gets spun by the DJ
3. Things stay the same druing these two/ three years, and only change when it stops selling.
4. The unknown producers/artists/bands innovate
5. The three years are over, the unknown bands are known, become popular. The 'values' they stood for before can now step aside for the money that will keep them cruisin' till the day they die. |
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| BelgianGuru |
| quote: | | But, in all honesty, who else could attract 75,000 people from all around the world for a gig? In my opinion: no-one. |
Even lil' bow-wow can, ok it's not a DJ, but neither is Tiesto nowadays :D |
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| Billche |
There's two different arguments really going on here. The first is an agrument about Tiesto the DJ, and the second is about Tiesto the producer.
As a producer, Tiesto is still pretty good. Hes not as good as he was pre '00, but he still has some decent tracks. People complaining about him being too commercial doesn't really make much sense to me, because being commercial means people like your music, and making a track that no one likes is kinda pointless imho. The only difference is more people know Tiesto's name then before, so his music is more widespread then it was back in the day.
As a DJ, Tiesto isn't really cutting it any more. He lost sight of what a good set is, and instead of making his set a journey, he tries to drop as many of his own tracks just to hammer in the fact that he thinks he is the best. That is what makes him "too commercial." I don't really know if theres going to be any changes in his style in the future, but his popularity has gone to his head, and that is the only problem. |
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