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This Liberal govt can't get enough of controlling your behaviour (pg. 3)
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by RobbyG.
ok I will:tongue2 ...I would love to live in a world where everyone was responsible for their own actions and would pay for their OWN stupid mistakes (i.e.: not wearing seat belts, not wearing bike helmet,etc..) but I know that THAT will never happen (at least in my lifetime) because we ALL pay into a universal healthcare that is out of control with high costs( I guess you don't mind paying higher taxes but I do) and ALOT of the costs can be reduced if people used their common sense when involved with a certain activity.Well many adults didn't get that option installed in their thick heads when they we're concieved and so the government has to pass laws to protect these people from themselves.
I know that you are concerned with TOO much government as am I but so far it hasn't IMO... |
having the government babysit you is bad enough, but to back it up with the arguement of public healthcare is even worse. I cant wait for the day they say "you OD'd? well thats your fault so OHIP wont cover it. Why should taxpayers pay for what you do to yourself?"
Your reasoning is a very dangerous one.
If if you arent smart enough to reap what you sew by the time you are over 18, then you deserve whatever happens to you. Its called consequences for your actions and it's something that people forget. Its not up to the government to legislate common sense. ITS UP TO YOU! ITS YOUR RESPONSIBILTY! If you dont live up to that responsiblity you live with the consequences (that being a cracked skull) This is what being an adult is all about. When you are a kid you have the choices made for you by adults. When you are an adult you make them for yourselves. This is why i resent government babysitting of adults.
We must preserve the right for adults to make adult decisions for themselves. |
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| Jayx1 |
Sidenote: This law has been on the books for kids for the last 9 years. When was the last time you saw a kid riding a bike? Id argue that this law has decreased kids riding bikes.
Also for all the socialists out there try this arguement.
What about families that cant afford $80-100 for a helmet? What then? Should the government provide free helmets if they are mandatory? You say why should YOU pay for my healthcare? Why should I pay for a helmet just because YOU tell me to? |
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| girllovingtvibe |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
I think we should pass legislation banning sharp corners, sharp edges and making all walls rubber. After all what if someone hurts themselves and we have to pay for their healthcare?
I say rubberized rooms and rounded corners should be mandatory since we are obviously all a bunch of child minded retards according to the govt!! |
giggle - that is a great idea ;) lol |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by girllovingtvibe
giggle - that is a great idea ;) lol |
heheheh i thought so too! |
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| RobbyG. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
having the government babysit you is bad enough, but to back it up with the arguement of public healthcare is even worse. I cant wait for the day they say "you OD'd? well thats your fault so OHIP wont cover it. Why should taxpayers pay for what you do to yourself?"
Your reasoning is a very dangerous one.
If if you arent smart enough to reap what you sew by the time you are over 18, then you deserve whatever happens to you. Its called consequences for your actions and it's something that people forget. Its not up to the government to legislate common sense. ITS UP TO YOU! ITS YOUR RESPONSIBILTY! If you dont live up to that responsiblity you live with the consequences (that being a cracked skull) This is what being an adult is all about. When you are a kid you have the choices made for you by adults. When you are an adult you make them for yourselves. This is why i resent government babysitting of adults.
We must preserve the right for adults to make adult decisions for themselves. |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by tw1tch
I can certainly prove you're smoking a cigarette. To hell with it, ban those too. |
that's a whole other discussion, but that would fantastic! |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
What about families that cant afford $80-100 for a helmet? What then? |
Then they probably can't afford a bike either.
This logic is ridiculous - "what if I can't get car insurance?" then you don't buy a car! |
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| RobbyG. |
| I hear ya dude but this is only my opinion...Some "adults" are still kids even AFTER turning 18.I don't know what the criteria was to determine when people become adults at 18 but thats another thread... |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
Then they probably can't afford a bike either.
This logic is ridiculous - "what if I can't get car insurance?" then you don't buy a car! |
But car insurance protects others from your actions therefore should be mandatory. Bike helmets only protect yourself. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by RobbyG.
I hear ya dude but this is only my opinion...Some "adults" are still kids even AFTER turning 18.I don't know what the criteria was to determine when people become adults at 18 but thats another thread... |
Some people are always kids... so is life. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
that's a whole other discussion, but that would fantastic! |
The gangsters, bikers, triads etc would love this to happen |
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
It doesnt hurt anyone other than yourself if you dont wear one. Dont i have the right to decide for myself what kind of risk i wish to take as long as im not hurting others? I moved out to get away from my parents thank you. |
I agree this is overly paternalistic...but you're wrong there that it doesn't hurt anyone other than themself.
eg. you're riding a bike, someone in a car clips you (even gently) and you fall. you have a helmet vs. not can DRAMATICALLY affect that other person in the way they are charged. Yes, the driving is in the "wrong", but that wrong could have been mitigate by the other person being safe. Sorry, but "it's not stylish" doesn't cut it. While not illegal not to wear one, the rider ought to bear SOME personal responsibility for what amounts to their own negligence.
same thing for people who don't wear seatbelts...you hit someone, they have a seatbelt and they're ok, so you're charged with whatever (turn not in safety, for eg.)...they fly through their windshielt and die...vehicular manslaughter.
I'm absolutely fine with people NOT being forced to wear helmets...but then I think they ought to bear the full consequences themselves. |
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