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TuanAnh213
why do conservatives continue to lump the iraqi war with defending this country and the world against terrorism when Saddam Hussein had absolutely nothing to do with the 9/11 bombings?
Yoepus
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Originally posted by TuanAnh213
why do conservatives continue to lump the iraqi war with defending this country and the world against terrorism when Saddam Hussein had absolutely nothing to do with the 9/11 bombings?


because terrorist like Iraq
Dupz
Honestly, what is a "terrorist"????

we throw around the word all too often..
Spacey Orange
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Originally posted by TuanAnh213
why do conservatives continue to lump the iraqi war with defending this country and the world against terrorism when Saddam Hussein had absolutely nothing to do with the 9/11 bombings?



1. Slick politicing to maintain support for the war.
2. Some never read the 9/11 Commission Report, or pay attention to the media for that matter.
3. Some believe that both are connected as threats to stability in the ME (Israel), even though they acknowledge no connection.
4. They refuse to admit that there is no connection to save face.
Dupz
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Originally posted by Nou
In Iraq, it crosses the lines all to often.

If they attack US and its allies then they are engaged in rebel activities, perfectly legit and fine in my opinion.

When they blow up a bunch of kids or non-combatents or take hostages, they become terrorists.

The question, is where do you draw the line, do you criticize the rebels because some of them may also be taking hostages?

I think we should, but should we look at them in the same regard if they blow up a Humvee, no.


Yeah, I see that normal Iraqi's fighting the US occupation are instantly classified as terrorists.. quite unfair.. But yes, those who take innocent civilians as hostages and generally kill innocents are terrorists. agreed...

Does that then mean that the US are terrorists, in the sense that they inflict "collateral damage" and basically are globe-trotting trigger happy's?

I'm sick of hearing the world "terrorist"... Everyone's a fukn terrorist, according to our loose definitions.. it's just another buzz word that doesnt mean .
Dupz
Oh, and is it just me or does everyone else start thinking of that Armand Van Helden song when they see the subject of this thread..

Damn radio, gets all those catchy tracks stuck in my head.. :)
ogvh5150
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Originally posted by Dupz
Honestly, what is a "terrorist"????

we throw around the word all too often..


Terrorist:
ter·ror·ist (trr-st)
(Military, Law)
n.
One that engages in acts or an act of terrorism.
adj.
Of or relating to terrorism.

terror·istic adj.


Terrorism:
ter·ror·ism (tr-rzm)
(Military, Law)
n.
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.


The Thorndike Barnhart advanced dictionary ISBN 0-385 07543-X ©1974 Doubleday:
n 1 a terrorizing; use of terror, especially the systematic use of terror by a government or other authority against particular persons or groups....

Apply that to a country or dictator.
policerobots
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Originally posted by TuanAnh213
why do conservatives continue to lump the iraqi war with defending this country and the world against terrorism when Saddam Hussein had absolutely nothing to do with the 9/11 bombings?


suppose we never removed saddam and will never find out if he did have weapons, until its too late when he gave em to some random terrorist organization. wanna wait till then?

while saddam and certain terrorists hate each other, they sure as well hate the US more. its only a matter of time before they realize that and work together.
Shakka
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Originally posted by TuanAnh213
why do conservatives continue to lump the iraqi war with defending this country and the world against terrorism when Saddam Hussein had absolutely nothing to do with the 9/11 bombings?



Damn, that little A.C. Slater video in your sig has me cracking up. What a fag!
ogvh5150
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Originally posted by policerobots
suppose we never removed saddam and will never find out if he did have weapons, until its too late when he gave em to some random terrorist organization. wanna wait till then?

while saddam and certain terrorists hate each other, they sure as well hate the US more. its only a matter of time before they realize that and work together.


Rebels: Top Iraq Terrorist Dead.....
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The Post reports that the CIA now has four times as many spies in Iraq as it planned — 300 — making it the largest CIA station in the world, and the largest foreign station since the Saigon office during the Vietnam war......


Saddam was a spook. Osama was a spook. So was George Sr.

Bin Laden comes home to roost His CIA ties are only the beginning of a woeful story

Exclusive: Saddam key in early CIA plot Cached site here.

The Devil in the Details: The CIA and Saddam Hussein

How the CIA put the Baath in power

The WMD's have YET to be found and if they are to be found they were planted there by US and western spooks.

How Western greed created Hussein's Iraq (You should have read this thread already since you did have the last reply entered.)

Israeli Intel given to US link here

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In fact, according to Brom, these sources were utterly compromised by Israeli intelligence, which made the case for starting the war and kept it going as long as necessary. The retired general described Israel as a “full partner” in U.S. and British intelligence failures that exaggerated Iraqi President Saddam Hussain’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs in the lead up to the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.


CIA report finds no Zarqawi-Saddam link

(1998) Officials: Iran Messages About Anti-Saddam Plot Led to FBI Probe of CIA

Michael19
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Originally posted by policerobots
suppose we never removed saddam and will never find out if he did have weapons, until its too late when he gave em to some random terrorist organization. wanna wait till then?

while saddam and certain terrorists hate each other, they sure as well hate the US more. its only a matter of time before they realize that and work together.



so its alright for you to invade any country you like, cos well, they just "might" have WMD?! :rolleyes:
policerobots
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Originally posted by Michael19
so its alright for you to invade any country you like, cos well, they just "might" have WMD?! :rolleyes:


"might"? dont forget that he used chems in iran in the past

and what if there was 100% accurate intel on his weapons?
left wing nuts will still defend saddamn's case or whoever has them, claiming it was the fault of the west (or another reason)
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