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Apology to Americans on behalf of Canadians (pg. 7)
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| quote: | Originally posted by phuzzyfish12
Thanks....got a little fired up there :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: |
a DigiNut can do that :toothless
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Euphorica
digi..bush has abosulutly screwed their economy!
clinton had just leveled it out and then wammo here came bush.
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
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Meaning what exactly?
National debt always goes up when a country is engaged in a war. You really think he had the option not to spend that money after 9/11? That debt will go down in no time because the United States' GDP is high and American leaders actually PAY DOWN the debt.
Clinton didn't do jack for the American economy. You have to understand that economy lags policy - Clinton happened to be elected at a time when the American economy was doing well, but that was because of the people who were running the country *before* Clinton. It would be like saying McGuinty is doing well for Ontario's economy - well actually no, Mike Harris did all the dirty work, McGuinty is just enjoying the ride. |
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| DigiNut |
Oh, a few other things:
| quote: | Originally posted by kamil
you wouldnt be saying that if u lived in iraq and had to live with bushes bull policies forced upon you. u dont get it, do you? |
Do you live in Iraq? No. Canadians seem to love to propagate this mythology that Iraq is now in condition because of American involvement. Actually, Iraq is in better condition than ever before and I know actual Iraqis who have confirmed this. Iraqis had to live with SADDAM'S "bull policies" forced on them - Bush is hardly forcing anything on them except to stop blowing up.
| quote: | Originally posted by voodoochild
This man is solely responsible for BLOWING up men, women and babies to bits. Do you get it!! |
Oh yes right - SOLELY responsible. Let's just conveniently ignore all the deaths that Bin Laden and Saddam are responsible for. :rolleyes: Please try to learn the difference between murder and defense, and also take a good look at the headcounts of those that have died at Bush's hand compared with those that died at the hands of the people he has taken out of commission.
| quote: | Originally posted by phuzzyfish12
Oh and for a flip-flop.... bush flip-flopped on the war in Iraq over and over again.... do your research and watch the debates from this past election and it is right there on tape!!!!! |
I've done my research - the question is, have you? You'll have to come up with a little more evidence than "it is right there on tape" - which tape? At what point on it? Can you be a little more specific here?
And to think you say that "everyone" considered Kerry the lesser of two evils - obviously over 50% of the country did not, seeing as how he won the senate vote AND the popular vote. It's the same as always though - you just disregard those people as though they are somehow beneath you and not worthy of mention. No INTELLIGENT person would ever vote for Bush, right? :rolleyes:
The people have spoken - face the ing facts and move on with your life.
Canadians protesting the American president when they can't even run their own country - laughable. |
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| phuzzyfish12 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Oh, a few other things:
Do you live in Iraq? No. Canadians seem to love to propagate this mythology that Iraq is now in condition because of American involvement. Actually, Iraq is in better condition than ever before and I know actual Iraqis who have confirmed this. Iraqis had to live with SADDAM'S "bull policies" forced on them - Bush is hardly forcing anything on them except to stop blowing up.
Oh yes right - SOLELY responsible. Let's just conveniently ignore all the deaths that Bin Laden and Saddam are responsible for. :rolleyes: Please try to learn the difference between murder and defense, and also take a good look at the headcounts of those that have died at Bush's hand compared with those that died at the hands of the people he has taken out of commission.
I've done my research - the question is, have you? You'll have to come up with a little more evidence than "it is right there on tape" - which tape? At what point on it? Can you be a little more specific here?
And to think you say that "everyone" considered Kerry the lesser of two evils - obviously over 50% of the country did not, seeing as how he won the senate vote AND the popular vote. It's the same as always though - you just disregard those people as though they are somehow beneath you and not worthy of mention. No INTELLIGENT person would ever vote for Bush, right? :rolleyes:
The people have spoken - face the ing facts and move on with your life.
Canadians protesting the American president when they can't even run their own country - laughable. |
Hmmmm......you seem to know so much so why don't you come down here and do a better job....
As for looking down on people that voted for Bush...then I would have to look down at my Parents and my sister all college educated, parents with Master's , as well as me....:whip: :whip:
Finally....you DON"T live here and you don't know the whole story so why don't you do your research.....Damn I haven't gotten this pissed about talking politics with someone for a long time :eyespop: :eyespop: :eyespop: :eyespop: |
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| EvilDust |
Bush flip flops --> link!
"I'm not so sure the role of the United States is to go around the world and say, 'This is the way it's got to be.'"
-GWB 2000-
Personally, I think Bush is the puppet of the neocons. |
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| dallastar |
i am not sorry to the Americans!~ - b/c
I AM CANADIAN!!!! |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by GT357
you want to know what pisses me off? foreigners that take a on america. if you aren't from here or don't live here now, take a ing hike. if youv'e got such a great ing country and your sooooo full of ideas come on over, get a job, and do your part to fix it. otherwise BLOW ME!!!!! i don't like bush but you know what? i don't like ANY politician and that goes for YOUR politicians too. my family history spreads all over the world but i'm a goddam american and i'm doing part. |
When your country's policies don't have such an adverse effect on the world then maybe you will have a point. But since US foreign policy affects practically everyone on the globe we have just as much business in your business as you do.
Would I like outsiders trying to change my country? NO WAY! But at the same time, my country's policies don't have a huge impact on other people's lives other than our own. And i personally like it that way.
PS: I dont like the current Canadian government either but that doesnt make me anti-canadian. Think about it. |
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| GT357 |
| quote: | Originally posted by phuzzyfish12
Finally....you DON"T live here and you don't know the whole story so why don't you do your research.....Damn I haven't gotten this pissed about talking politics with someone for a long time :eyespop: :eyespop: :eyespop: :eyespop: |
dammit you can say that again. after this i'm never posting on another political thread again. isn't this a trance forum? anyway here i go...
| quote: | When your country's policies don't have such an adverse effect on the world then maybe you will have a point. But since US foreign policy affects practically everyone on the globe we have just as much business in your business as you do.
PS: I dont like the current Canadian government either but that doesnt make me anti-canadian. Think about it. |
spoken like a true pacifist. just kidding. seriously though when a country is in dire need who do they go to? the norwegians? the russians? nope those stupid yankees. and how many economies has our government literally rebuilt? i can think of PLENTY. japan, france, germany, vietnam, north korea and israel just to name a few. so you might think that we SHOULD have some say in the economic scheme of things. america makes up 5% of the population yet we produce 30% of the global market. one last thing and just so you know i think the world of canada. you have the most beautiful country. but who's nuclear umbrella do you live under? you see i have a feeling that if canada owned alaska we'd all be a part of the USSR. |
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| RobbyG. |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Meaning what exactly?
National debt always goes up when a country is engaged in a war. You really think he had the option not to spend that money after 9/11? That debt will go down in no time because the United States' GDP is high and American leaders actually PAY DOWN the debt.
Clinton didn't do jack for the American economy. You have to understand that economy lags policy - Clinton happened to be elected at a time when the American economy was doing well, but that was because of the people who were running the country *before* Clinton. It would be like saying McGuinty is doing well for Ontario's economy - well actually no, Mike Harris did all the dirty work, McGuinty is just enjoying the ride. |
Actually Goerge Bush Jr. is the ONLY President during "wartime" that is giving tax cuts which is the LAST thing you do...Absolutely the DUMBEST thing you do...No other President in the past has done that during a war.
As for the graph, well I have eyes & it seems to me that CLinton was paying down the debt while Bush is bankrupting the U.S. now that he's invaded a country that had NOTHING to do with those planes flying into the World Trade Center |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by RobbyG.
As for the graph, well I have eyes & it seems to me that CLinton was paying down the debt while Bush is bankrupting the U.S. now that he's invaded a country that had NOTHING to do with those planes flying into the World Trade Center |
thats like me going to the grocery store for my mom to buy milk and instead getting side tracked by the 5 cent candies and buying the whole bucket.
and then saying.. sorry i didnt find the milk
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| halo20 |
| quote: | Originally posted by INFERNO2K
lowlife s |
lol you rule. :rolleyes: |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by GT357
dammit you can say that again. after this i'm never posting on another political thread again. isn't this a trance forum? anyway here i go...
spoken like a true pacifist. just kidding. seriously though when a country is in dire need who do they go to? the norwegians? the russians? nope those stupid yankees. and how many economies has our government literally rebuilt? i can think of PLENTY. japan, france, germany, vietnam, north korea and israel just to name a few. so you might think that we SHOULD have some say in the economic scheme of things. america makes up 5% of the population yet we produce 30% of the global market. one last thing and just so you know i think the world of canada. you have the most beautiful country. but who's nuclear umbrella do you live under? you see i have a feeling that if canada owned alaska we'd all be a part of the USSR. |
You DO have a lot of say in the world. The point is that because this is the case, by extention we have a right to critisize your government due to that influence over the world. You are the ones that self designated as the world's cops and one of the results is that your actions are more closely scrutinized. |
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