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September 11th Attacks - Do You Think It Was a Conspiracy? (pg. 37)
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| culorut |
| quote: | | Why do i not wast 6 months plugging through endless calculations to show you that you are all retarded? frankly because i get paid way to much to do my job and i cant be arsed to waste my personal time crunching numbers and running SAP 2000 simulations just to prove you all wrong. i would much rather read through some grad students thesis on the collapse in the canadian journal of civil engineering or the ASCE journal. |
Stop huffing and puffing and prove it Mr. Engineer.
Like I already mentioned this should be easy for you since you have the education and experience.
Or maybe not considering you did say it has been six months and you have not dished out anything we already did not know regarding the official BS story. |
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| colonelcrisp |
| quote: | Originally posted by culorut
Stop huffing and puffing and prove it Mr. Engineer.
Like I already mentioned this should be easy for you since you have the education and experience.
Or maybe not considering you did say it has been six months and you have not dished out anything we already did not know regarding the official BS story. |
and in 6 years you have yet to present a properly documented and peer reviewed theory to counter the FEMA report. In fact you have failed to produce anything that even resembles a coherent theory. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by culorut
Stop huffing and puffing and prove it Mr. Engineer.
Like I already mentioned this should be easy for you since you have the education and experience.
Or maybe not considering you did say it has been six months and you have not dished out anything we already did not know regarding the official BS story. |
So the onus is on HIM to debunk your crackpot theories? Isn't the burden of proof on you to PROVE something happened that goes against the conventional wisdom of, um, everyone?
You're suggesting that if I come up with a theory that there are little green men on a moon near Vega, the onus is on YOU to debunk my theory, which will stand as truth until you put time and resources into disproving it? That's ridiculous.
Hey colonelcrisp, I drank an entire gallon of milk tonight. Don't believe me? Prove I didn't do it! |
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| colonelcrisp |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
So the onus is on HIM to debunk your crackpot theories? Isn't the burden of proof on you to PROVE something happened that goes against the conventional wisdom of, um, everyone?
You're suggesting that if I come up with a theory that there are little green men on a moon near Vega, the onus is on YOU to debunk my theory, which will stand as truth until you put time and resources into disproving it? That's ridiculous.
Hey colonelcrisp, I drank an entire gallon of milk tonight. Don't believe me? Prove I didn't do it! |
errrr i tried that back in college...... the proof is probably still on the cafeteria carpet :stongue: |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by culorut
Stop huffing and puffing and prove it Mr. Engineer. |
what's really ing stupid is that i know of at least 2 independent engineering studies that already do so. but you're so one-eyed you don't even read the opposing viewpoint(s).
if, as you seem to believe, the majority of people think as you do (as evidenced by the TA polls!) then why has the movement been unable to deliver a single peer-reviewed paper (which, i remind you, is basic scientific practice when publishing) that supports the controlled demolition hypothesis? steven jones' work STILL hasn't received it. what's the hold up? |
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| donnybrasco |
^^^Better yet; Prove viable motive as to WHY our government would want to perpetuate this supposed crime? One that stands up before a jury of your peers, just as has to be done in a court of law.
There is a reason Jurors are instructed to find someone guilty "beyond a REASONABLE doubt", because if every absurd hypothesis were to be entertained in every case where a crime has been committed, then NO ONE would EVER be convicted of anything! It's a sound system, and it's fair, because at some point, after all the "he said/she said", you have to use COMMON SENSE to deduce the truth! Each side has it's version...common sense is what decides who's right, and who's either lying, or just plain delusional!
The reasonable doubt in this case is simple;
1.) Could some secret faction of the U.S. government (and mind you, it would have to be a large group of people involved) perpetuate this crime and get away with it, without there being ANY dissent amongst those ordered to do it? (i.e., Kill their fellow Americans, for what? A pay-check? Please...)
2.) The supposed motive for faking 9-11 (or at the very least, for helping it along) is so that the U.S. would have a reason to invade Iraq. But we didn't need one! The U.S. already said that they thought there were WMD's in Iraq. So why go through a war in Afgan., just to get to Iraq? Why not say that Iraq attacked us and go directly after them, all things being equal in this supposed game of making up lies and reasons to attack another nation?
And if the U.S. Government somehow supposedly KNEW that there were no WMD's in Iraq (which MANY people around the world seem to believe), why would we put ourselves through the misery of saying that there were, only to incur world wrath? When we, as the supposed sneaky, lying perpetrators of our own 9-11, could JUST as easily have PLANTED some WMD's in Iraq once we invaded, and thus, save face...and a LOT of grief from the rest of the world!?
3.) It is UNIVERSALLY agreed by UBL and his supporters, including many Muslims throughout the world, that AQ took full responsibility for 9-11. I think if they believed for a SECOND that the U.S. somehow helped them perpetuate it, they'd be saying it by now!
4.) Anyone who would have been involved in such a conspiracy could certainly come forward and be the biggest whistle-blower in U.S. history! Why would they not do it if they existed?
You all keep arguing the details of "could the building have been blown up or not?", when by using "reasonable doubt", you can plainly see that the question itself is moot and implausible!!
Eesh...
Hi Pakistani Raisin! Long time, no see! ;) lol |
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| culorut |
| quote: | | 1.) Could some secret faction of the U.S. government (and mind you, it would have to be a large group of people involved) perpetuate this crime and get away with it, without there being ANY dissent amongst those ordered to do it? (i.e., Kill their fellow Americans, for what? A pay-check? Please...) |
This has already happened in history, in fact on a much larger scale and for a much longer period of time. Killing people over the almighty dollar? I know you cannot be fuking serious with that one.
| quote: | | 2.) The supposed motive for faking 9-11 (or at the very least, for helping it along) is so that the U.S. would have a reason to invade Iraq. But we didn't need one! The U.S. already said that they thought there were WMD's in Iraq. So why go through a war in Afgan., just to get to Iraq? Why not say that Iraq attacked us and go directly after them, all things being equal in this supposed game of making up lies and reasons to attack another nation? |
They needed something just like Pearl Harbor to commence this bull never ending war on "terror". In fact the members of PNAC said it themselves.
| quote: | | 3.) It is UNIVERSALLY agreed by UBL and his supporters, including many Muslims throughout the world, that AQ took full responsibility for 9-11. I think if they believed for a SECOND that the U.S. somehow helped them perpetuate it, they'd be saying it by now! |
No this is just in your mind, it is not universally accepted. UBL denied he was responsible for the attacks and the FBI do not even want him for the attacks, feel free to go the the FBI's website and report what you read there.
| quote: | | 4.) Anyone who would have been involved in such a conspiracy could certainly come forward and be the biggest whistle-blower in U.S. history! Why would they not do it if they existed? |
There are many whistle blowers who have come out, many do not say a thing because like many others it destroys careers.
Maybe you should read up on the many pages in the last year and realize why the the tides have turned on the official story.
Wake up. |
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| donnybrasco |
There's no arguing with crazy people.
EOM.
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| Lebezniatnikov |
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| culorut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
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It's more like.....
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by culorut
It's more like.....
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LOL
Yes! No more words, just pictures plz!!:haha: |
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