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| Jayx1 |
Im all for law and order that makes sense. Suing everyone and their uncle for something that you did yourself is NOT something that makes sense.
Neither is banning everything under the sun because it's an incovenience. |
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| Matt |
This thread will now be interrupted by a pickle dressed as a pirate:
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| RobbyG. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Im all for law and order that makes sense. Suing everyone and their uncle for something that you did yourself is NOT something that makes sense.
Neither is banning everything under the sun because it's an incovenience. |
:) thats better ;) |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Neither is banning everything under the sun because it's an incovenience. |
You know I can see why people get tired of you. You've got a lot of good ideas but a lot of times you ignore plain facts in order to spin the issue the way you want it to be seen.
It's NOT being banned because it's an "inconvenience". If that were the case, I agree it would be ridiculous. But it's being banned because it's a LIABILITY. Maybe you say it shouldn't be a liability, and maybe you're right, but in that case you're complaining about the wrong issue!
You want to bitch about our legal system, fine, I'm 100% behind you on that. But you can't fault anyone, be they government or private enterprise, for protecting themselves from liability! |
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| Jayx1 |
Tell me this then
Why is it all of a sudden an issue now in the last 5 years whereas before people were OK with it? |
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| tatgirl |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Tell me this then
Why is it all of a sudden now in the last 5 years whereas before people were OK with it? |
Possible explanations:
- The ingredients may have changed over the years?
- Recent awareness of this causing an attack, finally noted by medical experts?
- More reporting of incidents? 50 yrs ago, it would be rare that you would hear of cases of incest, rape, child abuse or Munchausen syndrome (killing of one's baby) simply because many never wanted to believe people were capable, or didn't believe the victim, or didn't want to ruin the reputation of the elder person involved. It doesn't mean it didn't happen, tho. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Tell me this then
Why is it all of a sudden now in the last 5 years whereas before people were OK with it? |
I'd say it's simply a trend. Thousands of PRIVATE workplaces and other facilities have banned perfumes across the board. I know it was banned in many buildings at my university. So it's simply a matter of people saying hey, if it's banned in almost every office, why should my asthmatic kids have to put up with it in school?
If it were a private business instituting the ban, nobody would bat an eyelash. It's just because it's public schools (and thus government) that it suddenly flashes on people's political radars. I'm sure nobody would even think twice if a private school banned perfume, so what's wrong with public school doing it? Schools are workplaces too, for teachers and staff; and even if you neglect the teachers and staff, they have the same responsibility toward students that employers do toward their employees, if not a much greater responsibility.
Jay, I'm with you 100% that the ban-fest in Canada needs to stop, but that doesn't mean that *every* ban is fundamentally wrong. Some of them make sense if you analyze them on an individual basis for their own merits.
P.S. with respect to one of your earlier comments, I'd love to see a law instituted requiring people to shower. :p Man, some people are just nasty, and that odour is far more offensive than any perfume. |
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| Jayx1 |
OK so its a trend. So why did that trend all of a sudden start in the first place?
Why were people able to put up with perfume from the middle ages up to a few years ago?
What changed? The perfume? not likely. The effect on people? Nope. People's perception of what it may do to them and their lack of tolerence? Yup i think thats it. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Why were people able to put up with perfume from the middle ages up to a few years ago?
What changed? |
Well I can think of a few things off the top of my head:
- Hygiene
- Cost of perfume
- Overall level of affluence
- The array of scents available (more scents = more scents acrid enough to choke a horse)
- Amount of women in the workplace (huge one!)
- Asthma conditions (people weren't aware of it many years ago, and it seems to be on the rise, probably due to things like air pollution)
There are probably other things, that's just what comes to mind right away. |
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| j_spot |
actually environmental pollutants have made people succeptible towards asthma and allergies.
Where as fewer people used to be allergic, more are now. The sector has gotten large enuf that its a real problem. Banning it in public sector offices is something that is good, but is a waste of govt time. It should be done by school boards or individual offices. If that is the biggest problem in Ontario, its pretty well off.(but there are much bigger problems) |
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| tha_broad |
If anything at all bothers me about this whole article, its this part..
| quote: | | ....and allowing her access to a private restroom so that she could avoid breathing cigarette smoke in the ones used by other students. |
How about stopping that??? |
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| Jayx1 |
- Hygiene --- huh? if anything people used MORE to cover up in the past
- Cost of perfume - what does that have to do with the price of eggs in baghdad?
- Overall level of affluence - see above
- The array of scents available (more scents = more scents acrid enough to choke a horse) ---- i know that people doused themselves in quite a few chanel brands back in the day as well
- Amount of women in the workplace (huge one!)- um cologne and deodourant?
- Asthma conditions (people weren't aware of it many years ago, and it seems to be on the rise, probably due to things like air pollution) --- asthma caused by air pollution NOT perfume. So why not take measure to ban polluters instead? Oh yes, that would be the logical and difficult way to do things. |
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