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| Jayx1 |
Be lucky you get tips and quite bitching about "cheap" customers. In any other country in the world other than the US or Canada (or tourist places desinged to syphon off our money) no one EVER tips at bars. People even think it's absurd.
Think about it. Im tipping you to flip the cap off my beer or press two buttons on a drink wand. Then you get these bartender princes and princesses who think they are ever so deserving. I can think of a lot more professions where tipping would be much more appropriate.
Sure the wage structure here has made it essential that we tip a bartender in order for them to get paid but thats fundamentally wrong as well. IMO a bartender should not be earning more than 10 to 15 an hour at the most. (even thats being generous). There are a lot more labour intensive jobs that pay that wage or LESS. Bartending is fast paced but please dont tell me it's a job worthy of $200-$500 a night.
So stop whining about the occasional cheap tipper or the stupid comments you hear because you are already overpaid as it is.
PS: In North America i tip at bars because its customary so dont think for a moment that im a non-tipper.
MY scale of tipping for any service:
Poor service = ZERO (tipping is a reward for service)
Average service = 15%
Excellent service = 20% (or even higher depending on the quality of the service)
Remember that tipping is supposed to be a reward for outstanding service and should NEVER be an expectation. |
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| djbruuen |
i 100% agree with jayx on this one. my thoughts are exactly the same with tipping. i'm not cheap by any means and like to leave nice tips to waitresses/waiters that treat you well, but if they don't deserve it, they shouldn't be given a good tip becuase 'its what you do.'
anyways...i work at a nursing home and i serve food to about 30 residents on a given nite. I'm technically doing the same amount of work as any waiter or waitress minus tipping for the obvious reason. so when a bartender flicks off a the top of my beer and it costs $4.75 and i give them a $10...when i see them taking a look at the $5 bills and they then turn to all the change with expectations of a tip for doing virtually nothing, i'm just kinda thinking ' you' and walk away with my money. go to tim horton's on a busy day, those staff have to work 10x harder for minimum wage and there tips are like 3cents on the 'keep the change' from ppl's coffees. |
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| Transmotion |
jayx have you ever been out of Canada? people DO give tips in europe and thats how it works because bartenders are not paid well,anyway i saw right here in Toronto in the menu that 15% added to the bill as tip for bartender and noone complains about that.
if you tip bartender - he/she remembers you and the chances that you get extra with your drink or even free drink encreases with tipping them,when you come to the bar you make up a "relationship with bartender"- its not just retail store like LCBO. |
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| Resnick |
| quote: | Originally posted by Transmotion
if you tip bartender - he/she remembers you and the chances that you get extra with your drink or even free drink encreases with tipping them,when you come to the bar you make up a "relationship with bartender"- its not just retail store like LCBO. |
HAHAH you have no idea what you're talking about |
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| Playa24_7 |
| the girl i was talking to at the bar while i waited 3 hours in coat check to get my coat, she was super nice, had to work 14 friggin hours, and even with all the people being super dicks, she still stayed a mad nice girl. everyone that she served "$5 hun" she always used the word hun or babe, always with a smile, and everyone was going insane beside her with the coat check bitching at her even though its not her fault. those are the types that deserve a tip. you can say a job is a job, but for 14 in hours, with people flipping out, its super hot and everyones just tired, and shes still mad nice to everyone, come on. |
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| Transmotion |
| quote: | Originally posted by Resnick
HAHAH you have no idea what you're talking about |
ok do you have a point? if you do,then make it. |
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| drgoodvibe |
| quote: | Originally posted by djbruuen
go to tim horton's on a busy day, those staff have to work 10x harder for minimum wage and there tips are like 3cents on the 'keep the change' from ppl's coffees. |
that is so true it's sad. I generally don't tip to impress at a bar. It is there job to get you your drink. However if you get some sort of excellent service then great i'll tip well. However I ALWAYS tip an extra $5 at least for my haircut. A good $10 haircut deserves a $5 tip!:thepirate |
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| E K Wing |
| quote: | Originally posted by Transmotion
if you tip bartender - he/she remembers you and the chances that you get extra with your drink or even free drink encreases with tipping them,when you come to the bar you make up a "relationship with bartender"- its not just retail store like LCBO. |
FREE DRINKS !! i better go fire some of my bartender tonight. making ave $500 a night and still give away my money for their tips .. see only canada let things happenes like this,people taking things for granted man. |
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| goodnet |
| I was born/raised in North America and I always thought it was absurd to tip at bars everytime I just wanted a beer. Maybe that's just my "cheap" side talking, though. |
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| St_Andrew |
| i think tip should only be given if the service was over what is expected. And that is for everything, including resturants and whatever. compulsory tips are stupid imo. |
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| EvilTree |
I do dislike how people start expecting things like tips as a norm. Tipping has become part of being socially forced upon thing.
I also don't like restaurants that includes tips in the bill.
I'm not a cheapass and I tip minimum 10% always, but I hate it when people expect me to tip and bitch about it. |
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| soopa7fly |
my turn to chime in, i am a waiter at a restaurant. i make $3/hr (US)as my hourly rate, so my income depends on my tips. i usually average $15/hr in tips. and of all the jobs ive ever worked in my life, this one is the hardest, its not easy by any means. i do understand however that good tips require good service, and i know if i mess something up pretty bad, that i should expect a less than average tip. and its the same way with bartenders, they also do not make minimum wage, so their tips are their living. but the same rules apply, good tips require good service.
and as for all you people bitching about how ''bartending isnt a hard job, they dont deserve $300+ a night'' then you get hired at a busy bar, work there on the busiest night of the week, and let me know how easy it is when you constantly have never-diminishing lines of people who want drinks, and are all anxious to get them |
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