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| getfoul |
| I didnt know Apes had military school, unless it's for guerilla tactics or something. |
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| smokeape |
You didn't read the thread and are obviously stupid. Need a little advice facing the cadre before I go there and go the f*ck off is all. I can do that all day long, but would like some second opinions first.
thanks,
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| Orbital32 |
Alot of schools have gotten strict on fighting. Luckily he didn't get arrested. Most schools call the cops right away and explusion. You can not say that your son is being treated unfairly if he got busted for drugs before. You might have to kiss ass tomorrow. Talk about the "punishment" you will impose on your son. You might have him write a apology. Right now the cards are stacked against him. You need to put in the their minds that he will change....the only way you will do that in one day is to kiss ass.
If you are going to act like an ass over there, there's no point going. |
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| mto |
| quote: | Originally posted by smokeape
Old HOmey got some probs. The High School Military Academy where my son goes wants to dismiss him for fighting. He was dismissed last year for drugs. Apparently, there was an incident where 3 seniors, including my son, was beating on a new student. My son was absolute star tailback in football and playing varsity basketballl as well. There was a fracas last night where 3 players got ejected, then an opposing playing threw an elbow in my son's face and he commeced to beat him senseless. But dismissal is apparently based on the new student hazing. Other two are being retained by rich parents and I'm fixing to go there in the morning to f*cking challenge my son's dismissal. I'm pretty f*cking powerful in my current occupation related to the Army Infantry, but can't divulge it here.
Any suggestions before I go there and rip some f*cking heads??
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I still can't believe you're that old!!! I always thought you were in 20s like rest of us till u started mentioning kids few threads ago.
Anyways, use your authority or maybe find a new school. I dunno man, i cant tell you much, I don't know anything about this situation and i'm not a parent. |
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| smokeape |
Damn, finally a few sensible threads. Thanks guys. Helping me tone down my visit tomorrow. I'm so f*cking livid right now, I can't really take it. I am butt ass up front. Give me a few words to calm me. Thanks,
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| PhloTron |
Do you have oversight over your son? I mean...it's a military academy...does he room and board there? If you can't impose any restrictions on him because he's not at home every night...you'd have less pull. But if he's home daily and you have control to kick his ass (lose privilages)...until he finishes school.
I'm actually surprised a little bit. I would think a military academy would be shamed that they can't control their own students...your examples given. Usually, they pride themselves on discipline and following rules. A school that's not able to achieve this with their students doesn't seem to be meeting the expectations or the reason for attending.
Maybe they should take some examples from the perochial school I attended where if you broke the rules...the nuns would break you. :D
Needless to say...there were no problems at our school...cuz you didn't want your ass to meet a 2x4. :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
Good luck...I would think acting stern, but professional would be your best bet...Losing your head, just as your son (protecting himself or not) doesn't seem to help the cause. |
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| smokeape |
| quote: | Originally posted by PhloTron
Needless to say...there were no problems at our school...cuz you didn't want your ass to meet a 2x4. :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
Good luck...I would think acting stern, but professional would be your best bet...Losing your head, just as your son (protecting himself or not) doesn't seem to help the cause. |
Tx for you input. Yes, he's in a boarding school with no discernable parental supervision if norm is to beat on the newbies. But, besides the newbies, I understand they fight about all the damn time anyway. Hell, my son's nose got broke last year as an example and he needed some surgery to straighten it and his opponent needed stiches on his lip and head. Anyhow, the latest mayhem was in the realm of pugilistic norms from what I understand and hope to keep my combatant in there for his last semester of school to graduate.
Thanks once again,
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| Omega_Blue |
| kids will be kids. fights and drugs don't seem too out of place in my opinion. I would send him to public high school. |
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| smokeape |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_Blue
kids will be kids. fights and drugs don't seem too out of place in my opinion. I would send him to public high school. |
Tx for you opinion. Really appreciate the input. No, this guy's been there and been kicked twice. No future in the pubs no more.
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| Arbiter |
I've got a wealth of experience coercing "authority figures" into seeing things my way.
The most important thing you can have going into a meeting like this is information. Firstly, you want as much background/personal information about the person/people you're dealing with as possible. And secondly, it's important to know some things about their personality if possible.
The fundamental key to getting what you want is to get inside their head, and to do this you need what I would call "presence." Dress like and important person, carry yourself with supreme confidence, speak loudly and never hesistate. If possible, you should bring people with you, so that you have more people on your "side" than they do on theirs.
Most authority figures are pretty much used to everyone bending over and taking it in the ass from them, but they're also used to dealing with loudmouths, punks, and the like. So to make them uncertain/uncomfortable, you have to fit neither bill. The best way to accomplish this is typically to be confident, don't give an inch on any issue, and to very subtly demean them at every opportunity. If you're doing it perfectly, they won't know whether you're intentionally insulting them or they're just taking what you say wrong.
Talk about the subject at hand, but make a point of dragging unrelated nonsense into the conversation while trying to sound prestigious. Make intelligent-sounding but ultimately pointless remarks about how their office could be better set up, or comment negatively but not directly insultingly about anything from their chairs to their choice in literature - one time I pointed out the irony of an administrator putting the Tao Te Ching on his windowsill and he looked like he was about to start crying. If possible, make faux-sympathetic references to their superiors pushing them around. If they've won an award of some kind recently, try to congratulate them in a way that subtly makes fun of it.
The point of all this is to transform their perception of their relationship with you in their mind. At the start of the meeting, they probably perceive themselvse as the decision-maker, the one who knows what's right and implements it. But as the meeting progresses, suddenly you're the fashion expert and the ethicist, not to mention the person who has shaped the direction of the conversation throughout. Instead of doing the telling, they've been getting told one thing or another throughout the course of the exchange, and subconsciously they'll feel less powerful and influential in relation to you and far more likely to oblige your requests.
I'm not sure how much use this is to you, as my experience is primarily from the standpoint of being the guy they're trying to kick out. But my guess would be that many of the same principles hold true. In any case, good luck. As someone who eventually did get kicked out of school for fighting, I'm rooting for you. |
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| e*motion |
| hey smoke... what age are you? |
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| smokeape |
That's it!!! F*cking thanks loads!! Don't know if I can drag another person into the conflict physically, but got them at phones reach all the way up to general here if I need them. You're exactly right in that they are not calling the shots, hell I manage the entire Army enlisted Infantry every day. I'm going to war with this kid to keep him in the Miltary Academy and graduate High School with them. Will even bribe them if that's what it takes. Money ain't . I think I got a good product (absolute sole offense on football team) to sell and will go for it. Presidents of Military Schools don't really excite me to begin with since I deal with the real Army. Will attack at 1000 hours in the morning. Once again, really appreciate some constructive input!!!
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