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smokeape
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Originally posted by Camwin
i agree with you on equal punishment on some level, but in this case i don't think he deserves it, i hate to say that but it's my opinion. If you do something wrong you get punished, if you do it again you it gets worse. It don't matter if he ran 100 yrds or flew the whole football field. Fighting ain't normal in sports, it just happens. I think there is something psychologically wrong that he really needs to be talked to about. The only person that can do that is you.


Yep, not disagreeing here. He does wrong by beating up kids, he needs to be dismissed, but not if other two instigators are not. I've got enough facts at the moment to warrant a dismissal, but not when they plan on retaining other two of the three involved. Inequtable punishment, and inequtiability clearly, so I think saner heads will rule. Past histories should not be an overriding factor in an incident. Punishment can be meted, but such punishment should be meted equally based on the offense and not on past history. In this case I believe they think my son dreamt the assault up, which is not supported by substantive evidence. I wasn't born yesterday either.

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kamil
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Originally posted by igottaknow
he needs professional help because ppl in the military don't believe in sissy things like talking. maybe if smoke hits him harder he'll "get it" :nervous: errr wait second maybe thats where he learned his violent behavior from


wow, you love to provoke, dont you?
smokeape
Smoke will smoke tomorrow by god. You just don't f*ck with my kids and try to get away with it. Guilty or not, I want his ass to graduate this spring.

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kamil
I applaud smokeapes concern for his son, some parents wouldnt give a . THAT would be bad parenting, but the kid DOES need something like boot camp for his behaviour. Tho, when unfair punishment is given, im gonna agree with smokeape.

And as for those insitgating tossers, igottaknow and shadowolf, stfu unless you got something constructive to say.
mezzir
good luck smokey!
and you go tell those tards bout equal punishment:whip:
Lira
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Originally posted by kamil
And as for those insitgating tossers, igottaknow and shadowolf, stfu unless you got something constructive to say.

You want something constructive to be said?

This is military school we're talking about. Spending 7 years there taught me many things. One of them is - authority is needed and even if you believe authority is wrong, you've got to play by their rules. You're in there, you're accepting the situation. The Brazilian Military School is considered one of the best schools we have, thanks to the military discipline. Can it be unfair? Sure it can, I've been punished myself for things I had not done. But if you're in there, you need to know how to play the game. A friend of mine would jump out of the windows from the 2nd floor (1st floor in the US) not to have his haircut checked, for example. Fights? You can't fight as it happens... if he really wanted to fight after an unfairly struck elbow on his face, he should know the score and retaliate afterwards (i.e. he must use what he's got between his ears). It's life... if you do something, something else happens to you. He fought in the wrong place, he's punished.

As I recall it, it's not the first time Smokeape says he's got into trouble. Maybe he's not ready for military school yet. He just can't say there if he can't follow the rules or sort things out by himself.

Luckily, he'll learn to sort things out by himself.
th0m
Hazing is fine, but beating people senseless is retarded. As little as I know about the situation, maybe dismissal is a good thing for him, although I doubt it would be an eye-opener if his dad is so supportive of his behavior.
muzzybear
Whatever happened to turning the other cheek?

God will punish him in his due time if he doesn't learn self control. He needs to learn a healthy fear of God from his parents.
igottaknow
I have no pity for kids who engage in hazing or are bullies. I hope he gets thrown out so the other kids who are there to learn can do so in a safe environment.
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Originally posted by th0m
Hazing is fine, but beating people senseless is retarded. As little as I know about the situation, maybe dismissal is a good thing for him, although I doubt it would be an eye-opener if his dad is so supportive of his behavior.

This is the worst part of being a teacher, dealing with these thugs and their 'supportive' parents.
UWM
This is ridiculous.

I support their decision as it's obvious that your child is a troublemaker due to his past history of

a) Expulsion from a public school not once, but twice.

AND

b) Expulsion from a military instituation for drug use.

It's obvious by this point that, no matter what, he's going to cause trouble. It really doesn't matter if he's three years or three weeks from graduating, he hasn't learned any respect for authority figured and never will until he grows up. You can only baby somebody for so long and push them along until you realise that it's something they'll have to learn on their own.

And this:

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My kid is a f*cking gangster who don't take no . Raised him right.


particularly disturbs me. I suggest raising children who resort to reason and discussion to solve their conflicts rather than beating the out of people.

I guess that's just my opinion, though.

ShadoWolf
well??
smokeape
OK, thought I would'nt have to address this. I won one day, then lost the next. I argued with the school President for two f*cking hours and got the dismissal reduced to 10 days suspension. Everything cool. Wrong. In the meantime, my f*cking idiot kid thought Dad would lose so he visited all the classrooms in the school and gave them the Bronx cheer while I was meeting with the President, since he thought he was expelled. Also punched another kid in the jaw dicking around. F*ck.
When I left, me and the President didn't know what the little f*ck did, but he called me and told me the next day. That's it, explusion period. I scored a touchdown and got called back on a penalty. Now I'm stuck with the little and gotta figure out what to do with him. I'm so pissed now I don't even wanna talk about it for a few days.

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