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| Orbax |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dan1584
Are PDA's of between 2 hot girls ok? |
not at all. I dont like porn. I dont like PDAs. :p |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tufan
let them , let the get maried, let them even adopt babies for sacke who gives a , people are equal, gay ore straigth |
what would your life had been like if you had two mothers?
or three???
(now that polygamy is being considered in Canada) |
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| Spartan |
| I'd be for gay marrige if gays promised to take "queer eye for the straight guy" off the air and never bring it back or mention it again |
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| colonelcrisp |
the basis of legitimate marriage being based on procreation is a pretty stupid argument. there are too many kids being born every year around the world, be it from un planned pregnancy in north america, or children born in china whos parents wanted boys instead of girls, or orphaned children worldwide. what we need more of in the world is loving family units, not baby making couples.
yes i understand that heterosexual unions are important and indeed play a substancial role in any society. i think the cornerstone of civilization is love. who cares who it is between. gay couples who marry should be able to adopt like any heter couple. and despite what the right wing christian crackpots think, i doubt that any child raised by a homosexual couple will be "turned" gay.
i think the people who strive to protect the "classical defenition of marriage" should spend more time fixing their system and less time on trying to exclued people from it.
Although im pretty sure that the US will never see legalized samesex marriage. i hope the canadian government will pass this new bill, it would be a nice fresh view on old ideals that i think is well needed in this day and age. |
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| Spartan |
| quote: | Originally posted by colonelcrisp
gay couples who marry should be able to adopt like any heter couple. and despite what the right wing christian crackpots think, i doubt that any child raised by a homosexual couple will be "turned" gay.
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they won't turn out gay b/c they'll be killed in junior high.
I don't think gay's should be able to adopt, at least not yet, society definitely is not ready to take things to that level |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
lol stop trolling |
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| placebo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
reading some of these posts ive changed my stance somewhat.
People in GENERAL shouldnt be allowed to be married or have kids. A rigorous selective breeding program needs to be implemented and a caste system developed. Uber soldats, uber mensch. The Germans DID have some good ideas. Hell look at the Dinan M3.
Force couples who want children that havent passed the system into the shadowy underworld. The choice to live happily sterile and having sex without children is rather utopian to most people. Those select few who have passed the test dont even have to be married. A careful analysis of genetic material can be fed into a nationwide data base run by the government and appropriate female "tanks" can be selected. The child will be theirs. Who says that genetics make up a family. The family you get to choose is the best.
So youll have couples that receive a pass to have a child (the ones who desire a child will be the only ones contacted with an annual contact to see if they wish their status changed). In Vitro Fertilization (IVF) will become the norm. The rare couple of people who have both passed the test will be given the chance to procreate along the normal lines but this is discouraged. There is always the chance of a mutation, a stray sperm or egg that doesnt match up to spec. The "Nature" children will be allowed so as to let human evolve along proscribed lines. We arent so foolish as to think we can take the human race to the next step by ourselves.
There will be a drastic population drop, but after the stabilization of resources and a re-allocation of surplus the nation will enter into a new era of prosperity and power. The rigorous naturalization process and genetic screening will limit the influx of non-nationals and the 5 year minumum military enrollment from age 20-25 will make sure we have a top notch miltiary.
whos with me? |
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| CityKitty |
centuries from now, people will look back at these historical debates and laugh. The idea of debating the rights of blacks was once as hot an issue. At one time this country debated fiercely over slavery. But over time, blacks were accepted and embraced by our society.
The fact is, people are reluctant to accept change, and this is simply a clash of ideals. It is the old, conservative belief coming face to face with a new, liberal way of looking at marriage. It isn't a matter of right and wrong, moral or immoral, though many call it that. If there is ever to be a true system of equality in this country, gays must be embraced, but it is a slow process. I accept gay marriage and see nothing wrong with it, just as I am an advocate of minority and women's rights.
And considering how many family-deprived orphans there are being brought into this world, allowing gay couples to adopt is a wonderful thing.
If we can get past the fear of change, we will see that there are bigger things in the world to get upset over. We are at war, we are obese, we are spreading aids to eachother at a horrific rate...these are the issues-not who or what another individual wants to marry. |
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| Orbax |
| meh just cuz we have lots of orphans doesnt mean we should let sub standard couples raise them. The focus should be raising social consciousness and stopping teenage pregnancy, not treating the symptoms of a sick society. Find the cure to the disease. |
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| CityKitty |
Of course I am all for stopping teenage prognacy, I would never be a supporter of that. And that is one of the issues that I think is far more important than gay marriage.
However, teenagers are stupid, clumsy, and often ignorant when it comes to sex-it happens. And there are older women who give up their children too-not just teens. Women with drug problems, mental ussues, etc.
I think it's unfair to assume that a same-sex couple isn't capable of loving and caring for a child, if not more. At a 50% divorce rate, heterosexual couples aren't doing so great either. I thnnk it's important to look at why families fail rather than what gender they are made up of. Banning gay marriage is not a cure either-the fact is that there ARE orphans all over the world and that is an epidemic in itself. If a sam-sex couple can give a child a better life, why not let them? |
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