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UWM
Sure, why not. If it will really make you happy.

Conversely, then, I'll go find a Fritz T/L with a load of tracks that I gaurantee he wasn't playing out at the time.
NiteMer
I don't care if he plays a good set at Fritz or not. He needs to play good sets everywhere. I understand playing to your crowd, but all his sets have sounded the same, the last 4-5 times I've seen him. He may have played different tracks, but it was all the same anyway. I saw him at Space, last year's WMC, and I thought he sucked there too. I think that was a 4 or 5 hour set. I got bored and went to the side room for Icey and AK1200. Either way he's a sell-out when he plays in the states, for the most part. It's the same anthematic trance sound, that I find played out.
sandstorm03
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Originally posted by NiteMer
I don't care if he plays a good set at Fritz or not. He needs to play good sets everywhere. I understand playing to your crowd, but all his sets have sounded the same, the last 4-5 times I've seen him. He may have played different tracks, but it was all the same anyway. I saw him at Space, last year's WMC, and I thought he sucked there too. I think that was a 4 or 5 hour set. I got bored and went to the side room for Icey and AK1200. Either way he's a sell-out when he plays in the states, for the most part. It's the same anthematic trance sound, that I find played out.


what was the croud like in the club?
sandstorm03
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Originally posted by UWM
Sure, why not. If it will really make you happy.

Conversely, then, I'll go find a Fritz T/L with a load of tracks that I gaurantee he wasn't playing out at the time.


id take that up if there was a nyc, wmc or vandit night tracklist :D. As most people couldnt id 1/4 of his songs.
NiteMer
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Originally posted by sandstorm03
what was the croud like in the club?


At Space? I'm pretty sure it's 21+. A more sophisticated crowd than some. He played a decent set at Global Dance this past year (outdoor event at Red Rocks), but he couldn't mix for that night. He's been very unimpressive, IMO, the last several times I've seen him. And when I think back to all of the live sets that I used to love, he was whoring the out of his own tracks that whole time too. Tell Me Why and We're Alive were on every other set I heard back then. He's just trying to be a bit too commercial for my liking.
sandstorm03
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Originally posted by NiteMer
At Space? I'm pretty sure it's 21+. A more sophisticated crowd than some. He played a decent set at Global Dance this past year (outdoor event at Red Rocks), but he couldn't mix for that night. He's been very unimpressive, IMO, the last several times I've seen him. And when I think back to all of the live sets that I used to love, he was whoring the out of his own tracks that whole time too. Tell Me Why and We're Alive were on every other set I heard back then. He's just trying to be a bit too commercial for my liking.


im asking if the croud seemed dead? :D
biznology
jesus christ, i thot all the pvd whores had died or something...

basically its summed to this PVD in the US: either wont show for a gig or will pander to the crowd playing old, monotonous or completely same tracks.

sander in the US: love him or hate him, he will always play something different, and you wont have to push your way through pvd knob jobbers to dance and have a good time.

(a club being packed does not equal a good time, and sander not packing a club doesnt mean he isnt an excellent dj)|
sandstorm03
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Originally posted by biznology
jesus christ, i thot all the pvd whores had died or something...

basically its summed to this PVD in the US: either wont show for a gig or will pander to the crowd playing old, monotonous or completely same tracks.

sander in the US: love him or hate him, he will always play something different, and you wont have to push your way through pvd knob jobbers to dance and have a good time.

(a club being packed does not equal a good time, and sander not packing a club doesnt mean he isnt an excellent dj)|


what does something different mean? Please show examples.

Sander has become a vocal house dj. And thats what he plays every time ive seen him.


who said anything about you needing to have a good time? Love him or hate him, i doubt you will ever see a dead club when paul spins.

jesus christ i thought all you moved on to Zabi by now...
Pete K
So bascially you're saying Paul plays a variety where as Sander does not? I just saw Paul last Wednesday and he played trance. Where is the variety in that? Where as Sander plays dnb, breaks, house, electro etc etc. I think maybe you should get out and see Sander again. ;)
NiteMer
Just because a bunch of n00bs that don't know Sasha from Sash! are dancing on the floor, doesn't make his music good. I used to love PVD, but he sucks donkey balls now. Oh well. At least he got rich by selling out.

sandstorm03
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Originally posted by Pete K
So bascially you're saying Paul plays a variety where as Sander does not? I just saw Paul last Wednesday and he played trance. Where is the variety in that? Where as Sander plays dnb, breaks, house, electro etc etc. I think maybe you should get out and see Sander again. ;)


8+ times, still plays to many bad vocals...
sandstorm03
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Originally posted by NiteMer
Just because a bunch of n00bs that don't know Sasha from Sash! are dancing on the floor, doesn't make his music good. I used to love PVD, but he sucks donkey balls now. Oh well. At least he got rich by selling out.


why did you like him then, and not now?


btw sander is remixing USHER, talking about selling out.


yes the same usher that started crying cause he lost $100,000 in a suitcase @ trump hotel last week...:haha:
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