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| ZxZDeViLZxZ |
| aight thsi is a remix of holden and thompsons - nothing ive been working on click HERE to give it a listen tell me how the bass sounds and the flutes and the layering on it. go easy first time ive posted a track for you heartless bitches to listen to |
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| Derivative |
the bass is very quiet and doesnt have enough presence. check it out under a spectrum analyser and come back into this thread - tell us where most of the presence is. do the same for the kick (which i think is also a bit weak). i guarantee you that you can fatten them up a massive amount. compress the bass hard. whack a filter on it and lower the cutoff till you are chopping off most of the highs and mids. then compress it again and gain up till you are peaking close to 0 dB. centre it and (i assume you are working in fruity?) put a buzz effect adaptor plugin on it. select rymix's stereobox and select the stereo to mono preset. that'll make it monophonic and will reduce some of the instance where each bass note bleeds into the next where the decay/release is too long. that'll tighten things up a bit.
the flutes sound kind of strange. i havent heard the original but synthesized flutes to me always sound strange, even the physically modelled ones (they just dont sound like real flutes). theres also something very static and unmoving about them. there are periods where nothing feels like its happening and i get the impression that it is a collection of loops that are looping around. maybe get a filter on the flutes and sweep em in and out a bit. a bit of slapback delay on them. just get some movement in when things go flat from repition. the bass seems to disappear halfway through and it gets drowned out by the bass on your other synths.
you should post more tracks to us heartless bastards for evaluation ;) a bit more criticism and a bit of work on your part fixing stuff so that we cant criticize anymore and you'll be a god damn star. eheheheheh :D |
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| DjDefected |
| Alright, I think you need to tweak your flute to sound smoother and make it sound fatter maybe even change it to something a little more agressive sounding. The bass needs to be a bit louder and your hi hats need to go down a little. I think compression on your kick would also make the song sound more driving. Lastly, I think you should bring the release down on your square lead and add some fx on that. Sorry if I sound like a dick by having so much, but it was a good track and I hope this helps. -- Ryan |
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| ZxZDeViLZxZ |
| allright heres another remix im wokring on click HERE its a remix of above and beyond present traquilty base - surrender tell me how that sounds |
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| ZxZDeViLZxZ |
| haha no criticisim is good by all means i didnt mean it like that i just meant retarded ass comments i dont really care for. but giving advice is a must and make it as ruthless as can be but just saying this sucks and taht sucks instead of saying hwo you think i should go about fixing it is what i was refering to. |
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| oboema |
| quote: | Originally posted by ZxZDeViLZxZ
aight thsi is a remix of holden and thompsons - nothing ive been working on click HERE to give it a listen tell me how the bass sounds and the flutes and the layering on it. go easy first time ive posted a track for you heartless bitches to listen to |
for starters make your kick mono,stereo kicks do not only sound annoying but if you ever want to release something onto vinyl stereo bass is unadvisable cause it makes the needle jump out of the groove,you could turn up the bassline a bit and perhaps add some more sounds (panned) |
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| prestige |
wow that sounds terrible.
you should like, give up producing.
jk the flute sounds have to go though. |
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| ZxZDeViLZxZ |
| the flutes are from a soundfont. yeah i see what you mean about the bass my problem with bass is lots of time i cant get a deep rumbling bass and if i cant it gets so distorted that its unreal which ultimitlay leads me to just not use it. ok i understand compression but how exactly do i get it to fatten up a kick or bassline. i really dont understand as to how it can do that. |
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| Derivative |
just knocked up some psy basslines using some freebie plugins:
http://www.soundclick.us/fastk6/10/...synthbasses.mp3
if you like those ill give you the flp file. the only stuff you need is ASynth (freeware bass synth), stereo greasetube (freeware distortion plugin) and glaceverb (freeware reverb). so it wont cost you a dime. the rest are all fruity internal effects. i dont think its that hardto get big fat warm bass sounds. whats hard is making all your big fat bass sounds sit well in the mix since they tend to fight alot for space down in the bass and sub regions.
the first 4 bars are just the kick and asynth bass with no effects. asynth just defaults to the first preset which is a moogish type bass. the next 4 bars theres treatment on the kicks and bass to get them bassier and subbier. the last 4 bars are a heavily distorted VB-1ish type bassline. other than that i havent really treated them. the last one is a modified version of the second asynth patch. as such it doesnt sit as well in the mix as the second asynth patch. i should really have redone or reworked the kick to sit well with the new bassline. but i got lazy and just chucked it all together.
i generally prefer working with VB-1 and albino but i cant give away all my bass secrets - i hope you understand ;) |
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| ZxZDeViLZxZ |
| well to be honest i use audio realism bassline or claw or bass station or a soundfont i have from a minimoog. and honestly the best thing ive found is using a fm synth for bass or the soundfont. and well psy basslines imo are easy my problems are heavy trance and heavy prog basslines. for psy i just load audio realisms bassline and use that. |
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| DJMaytag |
| quote: | Originally posted by ZxZDeViLZxZ
allright heres another remix im wokring on click HERE its a remix of above and beyond present traquilty base - surrender tell me how that sounds |
There is WAAAAY too much non dance action going on in this. It takes a minute and a half for the beat to kick in, then a minute later the beats drop for THREE MINUTES? You've got almost nothing to dance to, and very little for a DJ to mix in and out to. This is DANCE MUSIC after all, isn't it? If this is the way the original track is, then I guess this isn't really your fault.
Sorry, that's just my pet peeve about most trance these days, it seems to have forgotten that people actually want to dance...
Aside from the arrangement, some of the higher pitched sounds seem really weak and brittle. Alot of softsynths seem to have this problem, so you really need to beef them up to not sound so cheap. |
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| ZxZDeViLZxZ |
| dj maytag your post was about as usefull as me asking my mom how it sound except i think even she could of given me a better response. just pointing out that its slightly important to include information about it and to cover more of it. what sounds are hollow what arraganement issue the minute of pads and then the beat kicking ina nd then a 3minute break and build i asked for opions on where to take the track. not give me useless information, however on a side note cheap isnt really the word the correct word would be not your typical dance track. not all tracks goal is to be a insanely climatic track. ambeint orinted tracks dont really have alot of that as the feel of them are differnt. if i wanted to go for that i would of just used a large amount of instances of vanguard. mostly i was going for a more ambient chilled out track. but hey you aparently know what dance music is and i dont. so its all good, just think its important to point out its not dance music as id say dance music is rather cheap. kinda funny you say this tho as i guess my opions differnct where i think trance music is more so a direct reflection of symphonic music and i doubt youd say that. however thats the differnce between the now and the stuff that used to be produce. yes the synths are hollow im aware of that and i was trying to get information on how to add more depth to them possible more layering maybe some information on where i should harmonise some of the melody sections to give it more sound depth. but all in all utterly useless post |
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