|
Access Virus Classic
|
View this Thread in Original format
| DJ Twenty |
:eyespop: Oh My God! :eyespop:
I have just listened to some of the packs offered at Vegeance Sound for the access virus and my mouth dropped!!! never really heard this synth before and it sounds sweet!!! I'm saving for it now!
Anyone else got the classic model? Any good? Worth the cash? |
|
|
| thecYrus |
| the classic is the same like the virus b. (only different colors) so i would go for a virus b becuase it's much cheaper than the classic.. |
|
|
| Limit |
| dont be mystified by the vengence sound sets..yes some of them sound pretty good, and yes they are...BUT its all in the melodies not the sounds...I don;t know how that guy does it but he can throw out some serious melodies in 5 seconds flat...if you can't make any good melodies to go with your patches, no synth will help you...don't think that the synth will make you better cause it wont..only you can do that! My addice...try out a soft synth(trust me I love my hardware) but before you go and spend the money like I did back in the day see what you can do first..if you think you can't do much with a soft synth then you won't be able to do much with a HD synth. |
|
|
| Derivative |
| quote: | | dont be mystified by the vengence sound sets..yes some of them sound pretty good, and yes they are...BUT its all in the melodies not the sounds...I don;t know how that guy does it but he can throw out some serious melodies in 5 seconds flat...if you can't make any good melodies to go with your patches, no synth will help you |
i see what you mean. twenty, i have an access virus b and the preset player does indeed play patches off the virus. but. its the same with the vanguard demos - i know they are encoded in low quality so they can be streamed quickly. but those demos really do flatter the instrument. for example - when i first got my virus i could only make cheesy sounds out of it and most of the patches sounded cheesy. i had to start building patches to get the good stuff and its pretty hard work. bottomline is, i bought a virus thinking it would be this wonder synth that would replace all my old ones. its not. and its misleading to expect that. the vanguard demos on refx.net similarly make vanguard sound alot better than it actually is. despite this ive had a years extra programming time with vanguard and my virus b has no way replaced it. in fact, i still use vanguard more than my virus. owing to the annoying problems with running hardware in a predominantly software based studio (latency, MIDI sync issues, dodgy cables, glitchy recordings etc) my virus b is one of my lesser used instruments at the moment.
lastly, try it out before you buy for the love of god! i like the virus sound - it is dark, bassy and quite subtle. has this massive weight of bass behind each sound it produces and it gives many of its patches a dark, ominous quality. with FM and tuning the first oscillator out you can really go full on with virus and turns into a scream machine - literally, dying electronic screams. this isnt to some people's tastes but i loved it.
but theres some stuff about the virus which is really ing annoying! theres something about it though, hence why ive still got mine. but i can sort of see why alot of people sell their viruses (owing to problems integrating them into their setup/work routines, problems with running hardware or just plain annoying problems with the virus itself).
what i didnt love about my virus b was the following (found out the hard way):
1) multitimbrality is next to useless. spread 24 voices across 16 parts? not on your life. some single patch pads with unison on take up near on 24 voices on one part.
2) theres not enough audio outs to playback all 16 parts on the virus simultaneously (why they did this is beyond me. i seem to be able to play multiple parts through a single audio out but it sounds glitchy and ed up. progressively more ed up as more parts are played back simultaneously).
3) you can only have a single reverb effect/delay effect across all 16 parts. you cannot have reverb/delay per part. argh! (with all that bass, i get many phasing problems using global effects so i tend to disable them)
4) the effects for the most part suck. the reverb is pretty . the delay is not bad but its only got a delay time of 0.5 seconds. the phaser is really limited compared to dedicated ones and i didnt think much of the chorus/flanger. the distortion curves though are decent (combined with the filter saturation curves you can make the nastiest, evil noise. its great)
5) unison sounds blurry and muddy. i had previously played a nord lead 2x and the unison on that is so much sharper and fatter. that said, i do abuse unison on the virus anyway. instant ticket to fatness albeit slightly muddy fatness.
but like i said before - theres something about it. ive made the most agressive, *SICK* acid lines on this. theres a kind of 3dness to the pluck type sounds which i dont hear on most other synths - its hard to explain. but with a trance type pluck lead and the sub osc on, the pluck itself has alot of detail to it and the massive weight of bass sounds behind it. i notice this alot with pluck patches because theres alot of them on patch banks c, d, e and f.
if you wanna make supersaw type trance forget it. virus supersaw type sounds dont sound like JP supersaws. alot of people have tried. all have failed. then again, alot of people have tried making virus emulations. all of them have failed. nobody seems to be able to work out their filter configuration which i will admit is amazing. the dual filter setup is brilliant and they both sound incredible. |
|
|
| DJ Twenty |
Thanks for your comments peeps.
I am familar with soft synths but at the moment im building more towards the hardware side of things and defo think this is gonna be the next purchase. |
|
|
| Derivative |
cant be arsed with hardware 9 times out of 10. its just so inconvenient to work with next to my softies :( to this day ive used my virus in like 1 tune. and i never finished that either. its just the annoying process of recording audio from it. chopping off the delay time, post processing it then importing it back into your track. only to find a couple of hours later is seriously doesnt sit well and you have to go all the way back and edit the original patch and re record and re process and re chop off the delay time at the start. and after a while i just go ' it' and start doing it in vanguard instead.
in this respect the total integration part of the TI is beautiful. i could see myself getting that virus sound and a bit of the convenience to go with it. but for 1.5 grand?! i guess not. |
|
|
| Limit |
| Yeah the Virus really sucks...I'll buy it off you if you dont want it! |
|
|
| Derivative |
| never said it sucked. but if you had worked with one after learning on a software studio - man theres so many things about it that piss you off! |
|
|
| tonkproject |
| hardware is hardware and software is software..i think everybody know the difference and what to expect from it. |
|
|
| Derivative |
| so how come there are always new users that come onto sunesha's access virus forum and ask why their virus doesnt playback when they render their tracks? |
|
|
| Limit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Derivative
never said it sucked. but if you had worked with one after learning on a software studio - man theres so many things about it that piss you off! |
I know it dosen';t suck...that was just a helpless ploy for you to sell it to me dirt cheap. |
|
|
|
|
