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US School Shooting (pg. 10)
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| chavs |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
Werent the spanish one of the world powers when they had guns back in the day? :toothless |
Most likely we were one of the world powers before the guns. Then some twat invented canyons and all of our ships got ed by the english... :( |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
Werent the spanish one of the world powers when they had guns back in the day? :toothless |
They were a great world power, however, their decline had little to do with weapons and more to do with the changing realities of the world economy due to the industrial revolution... which they experienced later then their European rivals and the United States. |
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| Orbax |
| lol good point chavs. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by chavs
Speaking only about terrorism it wouldn't be any worse, since they get all the guns they "need" to threaten people, plus they don't have enough courage to face people and kill them with a gun, they just prefer using bombs to kill some not important guys. |
excellent point, however, in the US model they could have tanks and ... maybe they wouldn't be so cowardly then. I don't know.... Canada's experience with domestic terrorism lasted all of a few weeks, then we rolled the military into Montreal and routed all the terrorists. |
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| chavs |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
excellent point, however, in the US model they could have tanks and ... maybe they wouldn't be so cowardly then. I don't know.... Canada's experience with domestic terrorism lasted all of a few weeks, then we rolled the military into Montreal and routed all the terrorists. |
Well, they had (and maybe they have again) some semi-automatics and some missile launchers, but they are smart enough to not use them, as that would most likely mean losing people's support. |
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| DjArTiN! |
| quote: | Originally posted by CyberneticAngel
Well did work in Australia (as I am sure you know) but in America I don't think guns are the problem
Gun facts
admittedly biased, but fairly well researched |
That site basically owned every single person who disagreed with him. |
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| flavdave |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
This is one of the biggest problems with the US. You people have zero trust in your citizens or government. |
From what I'm reading here, it seems like the opposite of what you are saying, it seems to be the foreigners (especially Canadians)who have zero trust in American citizens, the government, and the use of firearms. There are close to 300 million people living in the US, so of course there are a few nut jobs that shoot up the schools, but the vast majority of legal gun owners are peaceful and responsible. |
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| kamil |
ust did a quick search on google:
there are 1,000 deaths per year caused by guns in canada.
there are 30,000 deaths per year caused by guns in usa.
USA population = approx. 300,000,000
Canadian population = approx 30,000,000
Ratio:
Theres roughly 3X more lethal gun shootings in USA then Canada. Fact.
Now, since ive done my share, someone find me reasons as to WHY current views on guns are the way they are in USA, and justify the need for guns to be freely given out to (almost) anyone. |
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| Orbax |
| quote: | Originally posted by flavdave
the vast majority of legal gun owners are peaceful and responsible. |
Or they just bury the bodies :p
lol i own guns and use them recreationally. Our area has basically zero crime. The thought of using it for self-defense isnt a reality. Then again, my friend from oakland had a dad on police force and gangsters used to enjoy shooting at his house in drive bys.
Im all for really really strict gun laws because for most people there just shouldnt be a problem. Heavy regulations with FBI getting red flagged at high numbers of gun purchases. Every gun registered and finger printed. I walked into a store and walked out with a .375 elephant rifle with hollowpoint rounds in 2 hours. As happy as I was the idea scared the out of me. |
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| johnyiscool |
guns are not freely given out to almost everyone
you need to pay to attend gun classes then pay for a license to carry a concealed weapons which is extremely expensive then you need to have enought money to buy the gun itself...
and the fact is the americans have the right to own guns its a basic right in the constitutions its like the right to freedom of speech and it is just as neccesary
I cant imagine what the problem is with people who cant see that its not the guns that are the problem its the people who are using them and trying to stop people from being allowed to have guns because sometimes people use them in crimes is like trying to stop people from being allowed to have knifes because sometimes theyre used in crimes
actaully knives are used 30% more than guns in crimes why arent you going after knives
and knives are much easier to get your hand on anybody can go buy a knife you dont need no special kind of permit... |
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| Orbax |
Much like problems of teen pregnancy, low literacy rate, political and world ignorance, rabid extremism and the like, a revamping of our social education system (via established school systems) would cure the symptoms of the one source of all these symptoms. If we spent as much on schools and getting inner city people a chance like the kids who are on legacy admission to Yale, the budding resentment might be nipped.
Well educated, well raised people tend to be a little more rational about stuff. Im not saying it solves all problems but its the idea of solving teen pregnancy by giving out condoms you know? Wont solve violence by taking away one of the plethora of tools out there. |
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| Slylee |
ughh, i'm so glad i graduated before this whole shooting craze came about.
who would have thought that guns would be an issue at friggin high school or even middle school?!
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