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Salem
Sup everyone, I'm just thinking..............pretty much everyone i know that is involved with EDM, is constantly talking about todays productions.....in which ever various genre. Saying basically that it was better years ago. THIS is starting to drive me nuts. Todays trance is just fine (don't worry, i was around in 99 ect...) and like, producers/dj's are ing lighting it up these days, wicked new tunes in every genre, IMO. It is just really starting to frustrate me, humans tend to think whatever happened years ago, is automatically better than what is about to happen in 5 minutes.

Offer some insite, no bull.:eyes:
Nick Mimas
I think it's both positive and negative. I mean back then it was mostly about the music and producer's came out with some great tunes even on some sub-standard equipment (Which is still going on) it was also really easy to be inventive with electronic music then. But now I think with advances in technology things are changing in a good way. 10 years ago if you told a producer in a few years you'll be able to make an entire record in a computer he'd laugh his ass off but now we got programs like FL where schoolkids can make stuff and other great pieces of soft/hardware.

Going back to it being about the music and not so much the fame and money. I think it was better that way, now instead of dancing many people are just standing at the DJ booth staring at what he's doing; is that why you came to the club? To study how he/she twists a knob or shifts a fader? DJ's and producers have risen to the point where they're like rock stars and un-fortunately (This doesn't go for everyone) this means that money and fame is somewhat more important than taking the music forward and producer's are just producing cookie cutter clones of songs.

I know I am going to get flamed for what I have said, I really don't care I just hope that maybe some of what I said is appreciated ;)
Salem
well written for sure:)
sandstorm03
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Originally posted by Salem
well written for sure:)


the #1 reason that 2005 trance will not be as good as "99 trance", is because "most" trance today is based off "'99 trance".

no creativity.
DOOMBOT
The music itself is changing with the times. Kids who are now starting to listen to EDM just like back when we first started listening to it will be saying the same thing 10-15 years from now as some of you are today. It is all on you whether you can change with the times. Personally, I love the trance that is being produced today. As long as it still moves me in the club then we are good to go. As far as DJ's rising and becoming famous... well, who would say no to that? I say good for them.

One night I asked a buddy of mine where he sees music headed in years to come. Mind you, he doesn't listen to trance on his own free time. Only when he is forced to when he is around me and its on in my car or apt. He said he thinks electronic music will take over. Raves all over the world. I hope he is right!
Floorfiller
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Originally posted by DOOMBOT
The music itself is changing with the times.



actually i think this is the problem...its not changing. what you have in an industry flooded with copycat artists who don't really bring anything new or inventive to the genre. the "good old days" were better because tracks had variety, whereas nowadays we get too much of the same tune after tune. the talent in today's industry is stagnate without very many bright prospects with the potential to carry the genre into the future, especially in the trance scene. what we have are a bunch of amatuer producers and dj's trying to piggy back off the successes of others in an attempt to make a name for themselves. what they don't realize though is that it's that exact mentality that will make sure that they don't stick out from the crowd.
Sand Leaper
After a few years people realized the commercial potential that lies within EDM. It's been all downhill from there, not just for trance. And why do people keep saying that 1999 was the best year for trance? If anything, 1999 was the year trance started crashing down the endlessly downward spiral of creativity for real.
Project 7
I wish people like that would just stfu, i mean cmon has "pop" changed much? in that last 30 in years? NO.

I mean if someone was to bring out something totally new to trance, then they would have to change the Genre name!
Sykonee
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Originally posted by Project 7
I wish people like that would just stfu, i mean cmon has "pop" changed much? in that last 30 in years? NO.

Pop music's changed dramatically in the last 30 years. I doubt you'd see 'hair' metal topping charts these days.

As for modern material not measuring up to past incarnations, it just boils down to how creative producers are willing to get and how much exposure they end up getting. There are still quite a number of creative works being made out there but, when the top jocks don't play them out, only diggers will ever come across them.

Fact of the matter, too, is owning a label these days has become quite a risk if you don't make enough money to sustain yourself. Say what you will about how p2p programs helps expose new artists, fact of the matter is if you don't buy singles and albums from new, creative producers from very, very small labels you aren't going to be doing those labels any such favors. Most established labels will find a sound that will bring them in the money they need to be sustained; if it means producing easily accessable music that regurgitates sounds which proved popular years ago, then so be it -so long as they also help get innovative artists noticed even if it's in smaller ratios, I don't have a problem with it.

Sure, 1995/9 (depending on whom you ask) may have been the creative boom for trance but you have to remember for all the gems that came from either of those years, there were tons of forgettable, failed experiments as well. Has the ratio of good-to-bad been tipped? Probably, but that doesn't mean there still aren't worthy acts to check out. You just gotta dig deeper for them.

PS: The Saiko-Pod boys are a good start.:toocool:
RebeL9
1994 was the best year for trance so stfu :P

Atari Addict
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Originally posted by DJMaytag
Techno and trance went through a similar phase between 1995 and 1997, when everyone and their mother was basing their tracks on TB-303 acid lines, many doing it badly. It got totally over used and finally the next great sound came and replaced it (the JP-8000 and the "supersaw lead").

Give it time and we'll see a similar cycle happen. We can't go on with the same old leads and riffs forever. Just be patient.


I think he has the best reply out of all posts in all the similar threads like this
miamitranceman
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Originally posted by sandstorm03
the #1 reason that 2005 trance will not be as good as "99 trance", is because "most" trance today is based off "'99 trance".

no creativity.




Totally disagree here. Today's trance sounds NOTHING like '99 trance (maybe a FEW exceptions). And if what you said was true, then wouldn't people NOT bitch about today's tracks if they were similar/based off of '99 trance which everyone loves so much?
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