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Buying a JP-8000
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Corteoz
I'm really close to buying a JP8000, but I'm looking for some opinions.
If you have tried the JP8000, can you write what's good and whats bad?
alanzo
Buy it and don't think twice ;)

The only synth i would buy to replace my jp-8000 is a virus KC
fr0st
Jp8000 is dated. The roland vsynth has all the jp8000 features + more better filters and effects.

http://www.frozen-web.com/samples/vsynth%20demo.mp3
dj-rob
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Originally posted by fr0st
Jp8000 is dated. The roland vsynth has all the jp8000 features + more better filters and effects.

http://www.frozen-web.com/samples/vsynth%20demo.mp3


jp 80x0 is known for supersaw, and that mp3 u posted has no supersaws...i belive vsynth isnt capable of the supersaw...also vsynth is more expensive...even tho jp 80x0 is dated it still its great, you cant go wrong, and with the vengeance sounds your set to go.

http://www.vengeance-sound.de/eng/i...ndexSounds.html
MessiahProject
Is there are Vsti JP8000 or JP8080?

mp
Neeldan
quote:
Originally posted by MessiahProject
Is there are Vsti JP8000 or JP8080?

mp


Already the aren't, but maybe in the future there will be :)
fr0st
quote:
Originally posted by dj-rob
jp 80x0 is known for supersaw, and that mp3 u posted has no supersaws...i belive vsynth isnt capable of the supersaw...also vsynth is more expensive...even tho jp 80x0 is dated it still its great, you cant go wrong, and with the vengeance sounds your set to go.

http://www.vengeance-sound.de/eng/i...ndexSounds.html


Before trying to discredit my statement. you should at least check the roland site... And in my demo a number of those presets use the supersaw...


** NEW ** V-Synth Version 2
The V-Synth Reloaded
Roland’s flagship mega-synth grows even stronger with the release of Version 2 software. This user-installable system upgrade adds significant new features to the already-powerful V-Synth, including brand new, never-before-heard patches for performance, the Sound Shaper for patch-programming assistance, a Multi Step Modulator for animating sounds, new SuperSaw, Feedback, and X-mod Oscillators, and Rhythm-Sets for unparalleled drum kit manipulation.

http://www.rolandus.com/products/de...rodid=V%2DSynth

The jp8000 sound is outdated... Use the technology that was in it and do something different...
Dj Pyster
Frost is correct, the V-Synth is like an updated JP-80x0 but with more features.

Supersaw and all the other waveforms. It's right on their website.
dj-rob
i see, but who is willing to fork 2 grand for it? i would rather spend my money on a virus.http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7.../base_id/103735

i would spend half of that and purchase the jp
bachatu
Guys, keep in mind that the super-saw isn't just what makes the JP-80X0 a JP-80X0. All the waveforms from the JP-80X0 are rich and have that a particular sound due to it's filters--obviously, that is what gives each it it's character (like other synths). There are other rich sounds and leads to get out of the JP-80X0 besides the typical overused ones-- And in regards to the SuperSaw sound... unless the V-Synth has the same filters and fexibility to detune the SuperSaw waveform itself, you won't be able to achieve the same sound.

One comment I've seen through a review on harmony central: "the sounds are like Yamaha EX but the filters really are thin and don't have the killer filters like on the JP8080... very disappointed...."

I would like to hear a direct A/B comparison from a good source. Newer doesn't always mean better. Many producers ranging in all sorts of different styles regularly use the JP-80X0 series in their studio for a good reason: it's good at what it does -- Like a Nord or Virus, it holds it's own and plays a vital role

And i agree with Dj-Robs comment - Take into account the price for the V-Synth - does it really justify 2000? Thats very subjective - but From the looks of it, its simply part Rompler part VA - I'd suggest purchasing the JP-80X0 for about 400 used, and a dedicated sampler or even a JV-1080 for those sampled sounds for another 300-400 bucks.

fr0st
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Originally posted by bachatu
Guys, keep in mind that the super-saw isn't just what makes the JP-80X0 a JP-80X0. All the waveforms from the JP-80X0 are rich and have that a particular sound due to it's filters--obviously, that is what gives each it it's character (like other synths). There are other rich sounds and leads to get out of the JP-80X0 besides the typical overused ones-- And in regards to the SuperSaw sound... unless the V-Synth has the same filters and fexibility to detune the SuperSaw waveform itself, you won't be able to achieve the same sound.

One comment I've seen through a review on harmony central: "the sounds are like Yamaha EX but the filters really are thin and don't have the killer filters like on the JP8080... very disappointed...."

I would like to hear a direct A/B comparison from a good source. Newer doesn't always mean better. Many producers ranging in all sorts of different styles regularly use the JP-80X0 series in their studio for a good reason: it's good at what it does -- Like a Nord or Virus, it holds it's own and plays a vital role



Trust me the filters are better on the vsynth.. As far as a reason why everyone has a jp8000 still. That easy the interface everyslider/knob has one job no multi tasking or menus to dig through. Yes the vsynth has menus but it also has a touch screen. I dont see whats hard to grasp the jp8000 was software in a box soo they just moved it into another box...
bachatu
quote:
Originally posted by fr0st
Trust me the filters are better on the vsynth.. As far as a reason why everyone has a jp8000 still. That easy the interface everyslider/knob has one job no multi tasking or menus to dig through. Yes the vsynth has menus but it also has a touch screen. I dont see whats hard to grasp the jp8000 was software in a box soo they just moved it into another box...


I highly doubt that the reason why many have the JP-80X0 has to do with ease of programming. And the filters on the V-synth are better- better for what exactly? I guess it will boil down to what type of sounds the person is get out of the synth - And from what I can tell - the JP-80X0 is great at strings, pads, leads.
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