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The Next Big Thing - Trance Evolves (pg. 2)
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Astral Shaman
any discussion is better than no discussion... |
music is always changing... It always has...
you can look at the various styles that have blown up, they have been around but tech trance and watered down prog trance are getting big at the moment.
I dont know if its right to call evolution of music the next step of a so called style cause most styles are always there producers do come and go though...
i dont think anyone could define trance right now, without using their opinion, so its hard to say what is past present and future... |
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| DJMaytag |
| quote: | | Originally posted by surfrgal You only needed to hear Oaky, Ferry at Ultra this year, even Digweed on his current US tour - they were playing way harder than I have heard them before. |
I dunno how far back Ferry's DJ career goes, but I do know he was producing tracks around 1992-1993 that were hard as fock! If he was DJ'ing similar hard techno stuff, then this is just a regression of sorts (which I think is a VERY good thing!). |
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| torontotrance |
I think you are all wrong personally, I don't forsee trance getting big again, it already is and I see trance hitting another rut with the armin/markus backlash happening around 06, I'm not much for predictions but I did predict that Tiesto would pull an Oakenfold and fall off his high horse, that will still happen.
For what I see as the next big thing, I see tech house making more of a comeback, same goes with techno at times. Remember tho, the next big thing is only that crappy mags like Mixmag rag on about, as they say they know the pulse of the clubs when they don't. Look at prog in 2001, only a few clubs were really successful with it, the rest tried and gave up and went to what they did well with. Remember as well, different parts of the world like different genres. I do see Ambient getting really big because chillout is huge at times. |
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| surfrgal |
| quote: | Originally posted by torontotrance
I think you are all wrong personally, I don't forsee trance getting big again, it already is and I see trance hitting another rut with the armin/markus backlash happening around 06, |
Which Markus are you talking about? Markus Schultz? I don't see a backlash coming against him because he's never been that popular. This board is about the only place that I ever read about him.
I can see a backlash against Armin, Tiesto happening because they are such obvious personalities. Lucky for them, their names are big enough that when the backlash happens, they will stay in business simply because they will still be the first Djs that every newbie goes to hear.
Just look at Oaky, everyone unanimously agress that he is a DJ, there has been a huge backlash against him, yet he is still mkaing a very comfortable living DJing. |
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| ZeroVII |
| quote: | Originally posted by surfrgal
Which Markus are you talking about? Markus Schultz? I don't see a backlash coming against him because he's never been that popular. This board is about the only place that I ever read about him.
I can see a backlash against Armin, Tiesto happening because they are such obvious personalities. Lucky for them, their names are big enough that when the backlash happens, they will stay in business simply because they will still be the first Djs that every newbie goes to hear.
Just look at Oaky, everyone unanimously agress that he is a DJ, there has been a huge backlash against him, yet he is still mkaing a very comfortable living DJing. |
Oakey makes a comfy living because he's a 'clever' Businessman.
Just don't get me started on Perfecto.
Markus *not* popular?
I wouldn't be so sure. |
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| kush paintings |
| There are two big things that I am willing to guess, and I aam by no means pretending to be an expert. I see the rise of the use of heavy basslines, see Gabriel and Dresden and Schulz amongst many others. Also, I think you will see more string and piano production, as with rob dougan (I know not trance, but influential). I am looking forward to these changes, as I think it will give trance a more organic crisper feel. Trance will continue to grow, but never explode, as producers, not djs will uphold the genre. Live shows will be done on macs and pcs using albeton live or other programs, and they will be far better for it. |
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| ZeroVII |
I've been mixing using Ableton for quite a while now, And though I think it's a great tool, I don't think it should replace Vinyl and the rest of the other staples of DJing.
Anyone who's seen a BT Laptop Symphony can definetly vouch for Live, though. :) |
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| surfrgal |
| quote: | Originally posted by ZeroVII
Markus *not* popular?
I wouldn't be so sure. |
Um, certainly not in the same league as Tiesto, Armin, Ferry, Lawrence. Not even close. |
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| Trance O Matic |
| quote: | Originally posted by surfrgal
Um, certainly not in the same league as Tiesto, Armin, Ferry, Lawrence. Not even close. |
Must say that I agree.
Markus is gaining recognition as a producer, but as a DJ he is nowhere near the likes of these guys. |
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| Sykonee |
| Considering its age, we might see a 'retro' return to the old Suck Me Plasma label sound. |
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| JuB jUb |
| I was wondering if a big cross-over thing will occur soon, like Dj's with people playing instruments live during during the breakdowns and stuff... |
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| Cobalt |
I agree with the "tougher" prediction, or at least "harsher". Paul van Dyk is playing nearly half his sets as tech-trance. Ferry is putting eccentric, off-harmony electro bleeps with a more percussive style, even pulling in some techno. JOOF is handily plowing forward with the sound he has been pushing for some years now. Lawrence shot up in the global rankings, and pulled a tough Essential Mix.
Armin is left squarely on the other side, which might be the point. Tiesto is trying to straddle the tough and fluff, and if his Ultra performance is any indicator, failing to do so.
The tech-trance preachers from two years back (of which I was/am one) were mainly thinking of Marco V's sound. But the new style is closer to Sander Van Doorn/Sam Sharp, sort of a hard trance/tech-trance fusion. |
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