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Im More Underground Than U!! (pg. 11)
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| Zombie0915 |
armin is too pop music, maybe not as succesful as momma spears, but pop music all the same,
im not saying that armin is bad, if you look to the left of the screen, you will see me blissing out at a party, while armin van buuren was spinning.
but there is pop in his music, just put on burned with desire and listen to it. There are just different degrees of pop music, this isnt a black and white issue. Its kinda like being gay, everyone is kinda gay, but not everyone is a flaming homo.
so britney is your flaming homo of pop musicians, armin maybe a few degrees smaller, like the curious type who faps with his pal in the hot tub while they are drunk at a party one night.
on this continuous scale of popishness, I would say that sammy ranks higher than the dutch trio, although sometimes it doesnt seem like they are very far apart when you compare some of the tracks.
But yeah, there are certain crucial differences between epic trance and pop music, and if there wasnt you'd be hearing more trance on the radio. |
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| Tranc3 |
Well after skimming through the posts since page three, I still haven't seen any convincing arguments as to why epic trance of today is different from the stuff DJ Sammy or Lasgo or Milk Inc, etc... produces.
What I have seen are loads of ad hominem attacks, appeals to authority, and appeals to bandwagons.
Just because you don't like someone, or think they are somehow homosexual because of their arguments, doesn't mean their argument is actually false.
Just because someone says their music has property X, doesn't mean that it doesn't also have property Y.
Just because a lot of people think there's a difference between two different artists doesn't necessarily make it so.
So I ask again - what is it that separates the epic trance artists that "make it" in the commercial world, vs. the epic trance artists that don't get on a Ministry Of Sound compilation? |
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| iammesol |
| props to Unworldly... every post i've read of his has made perfect sense, and he bashes noone in the process *claps* :cool: |
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| UWM |
| quote: | Originally posted by auranaut
Just because I am part of the oldskool, more progressive trance audience, does not mean that a track I like can't be epic trance. |
You can't be oldskool and be 16, son.
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| auranaut |
| quote: | Originally posted by UWM
You can't be oldskool and be 16, son.
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But the music itself can be. Should I not be allowed to listen to a track just because it's 8 years old and I wasn't around at the time? |
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| UWM |
I was just giving you , mate.
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| auranaut |
| quote: | Originally posted by UWM
I was just giving you , mate.
:cool: |
Yes, well... ...screw you. :p |
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| RickyM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aiwendil
they're as stupid as you are
since you don't know the answer, let me explain it to you. heaven is epic trance. ferry corsten makes epic dutch trance. in fact almost every one of ferry corsten's epic trance tracks are exactly the same:
intro(repetitive arpeggiated bassline + repetitive treble chord and/or arpeggiated pads)
breakdown(a string or two for 90 seconds, then really loud and obnoxious lead supersaw melody)
body(really loud and obnoxious lead supersaw melody + note changing bassline)
he might add some extra stabbing treble chords or pads at places in the track to pretend that he's being more complicated than what he really is.
dj sammy - heaven (extended mix)
intro(repetitive arpeggiated bassline + repetitive treble chord and/or arpeggiated pads)
breakdown(a string or two for 30 seconds, then really loud and obnoxious lead supersaw melody)
body(really loud and obnoxious lead supersaw melody + note changing bassline)
they're the same kind of music, buddy. that is what epic trance is, that is what heaven is, and that is why they are the same musically. the only major difference is that heaven is more popular. the only slight differences are than some of ferry's tracks are better than heaven and some aren't. |
Hello Radagast!
I know it is you because Radagast's name in elvish is 'Aiwendil'. Busted :D |
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| RickyM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aiwendil
yeah...aiwendil means radagast in elvish...i see you read the popular Tolkien novels. i'm busted? |
Yes. I found you out :)
:D
Fair play to you for picking the name though - now can you name the other 2 wizards apart from Gandalf, Radagast and Saruman? :D |
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| RickyM |
hmmmm let me see...........
Why did Gandalf initially not want to go to Middle Earth to contest Sauron....
Not that tough actually... |
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| RickyM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aiwendil
because he was afraid of sauron? lol
you know, he didn't think he was strong enough to contest him. |
yeah he was feared lol
RIght hit me with a question. |
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| iammesol |
| this topic went right over my head :stongue: |
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