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Undercover at the clubs... busting dealers all over the place. (pg. 11)
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| kr00t0n |
I started when I turned 16, I was not forced to by anyone, but rather when my older borther started clubbing when I was 14, I got interested and did alot of studying and reading up on the subject for the 2 years before my brother would let me try them.
I made the decision, enjoyed it, and the rest is history.
I dont have to do them, especially not to enjoy music, as I listen to EDM almost constantly at any time.
I have never forced them on anyone, in fact there are a couple of my mates who I go clubbing with who go sober or on alcohol only, and they don't judge me or others on their choices.
If a person can be given the right to own a friggin gun, you'd think giving them the right to choose something less likely to kill them would make sense. |
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| jrbuddha |
All these studies about marijuana being harmful, and having no redeeming value, medicinal or otherwise are paid for by a couple large groups:
1)Pharmaceutacal
2)Logging
3)Companies like Dow Chemical and 3M.
Pharmaceutacal groups want it kept illegal because they can't put a patent on it, or make money off of it, if you can grow your own.
The other 2 groups would stand to lose lots of money due to all the uses that hemp posseses, such as superior paper making qualities, and superior fabrics for a lesser cost to produce. |
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| kefkanium |
| As far as I'm concerned, drugs should not be anyone's business but the users themselves. I don't care if you use drugs. If you're smart enough to use them responsibly, then knock yourself out. If you're a moron who ODs, then fine. BUT, don't ruin my fun and don't up the atmosphere. That's all I ask. If I see a drugee dancing off in his own little world, cool; he's having fun, and that's good. However, if one starts being an , then I get mad. That's how it should be, imo... |
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| trance_shaft |
The drug war is a farce and those who attack occasional and harmless drug-use while turning a blind eye to the DEVESTATING affects of alcohol/smoking are ignorant.
People speak of drug use “ruining” lives, yet no one bothers to discuss the THOUSANDS of innocent people who die each year just by drunk driving alone. Perhaps you should go down to your local morgue and look at the mutilated bodies of people who have died as a result of drunk driving…their limbs ripped apart…their bodies burned so badly you can barely make out any facial features. What about the family members of these people? Go work w/ a pathologist for a while…take a look at the shriveled livers and the malignant tumors removed from alcohol abusers. Well we will forget them and focus on some people high in a club listening to EDM.
BTW here are a few numbers:
Number of American deaths per year that result directly or primarily from the following selected causes nationwide, according to World Almanacs, Life Insurance Actuarial (death) Rates, and the last 20 years of U.S. Surgeon Generals' reports.
TOBACCO 340,000 to 450,000
ALCOHOL (Not including 50% of all highway deaths and 65% of all murders) 150,000+
ASPIRIN (Including deliberate overdose) 180 to 1,000+
CAFFEINE (From stress, ulcers, and triggering irregular heartbeats, etc.) 1,000 to 10,000
"LEGAL" DRUG OVERDOSE (Deliberate or accidental) from legal, prescribed or patent medicines and/or mixing with alcohol - e.g. Valium/alcohol 14,000 to 27,000
ILLICIT DRUG OVERDOSE (Deliberate or accidental) from all illegal drugs. 3,800 to 5,200
Yes in some years CAFFIENE and LEGAL drugs can kill more than illegal drugs. Forget that…lets go back to alcohol and tobacco.
Do you know there are ADDITIONAL costs associated w/ the alcohol and tobacco…costs to our economy…our health care system?
People also keep bringing up the issue of “ruining one’s life”. Somehow drug users alone are seen as “ruining their lives”. What ignorance. All foods/substances in excess have ruined lives. You talk of depression via drug use…what about depression via obesity? LOL...you’ll find fat people stuck on prozac w/ self-esteem issues. The staggering obesity in our country while break the back of our health care system down the line. You know what percentage of our youth is overweight? You know what will happen when these fat McDonald-filled kids grow older and get diabetes and heart disease at age 30? Awww...forget that…lets focus on drug-users….
Alcohol…lol….one person who is down and out on heroine I will point to TEN who have liver cirrhosis, cancer, etc. I’ll show you AA meetings w/ drunkards who have ruined their family’s lives. I’ll show you widows, brothers, sisters, fathers, who weep for their innocent loved one lost in a stupid drunk driving accident.
I’m not a fan if “illicit” drugs, but the focus of our attentions on the wrong problem astounds me. We’ll go after some guys rolling in a club while on any given night dozens will die b/c other LEGAL substances. |
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| xtractorfan |
Probably because these legal substances have been around for centuries and have become so deeply ingrained in society that no government would have the balls to try and criminalise them. That and the fact they earn lots of $$$$ in tax revenue from their sale.
Something has to change, either they outlaw cigarettes and alcohol or they decriminalise illicit drugs like weed. The "war" on drugs cannot be won. |
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| racing4hoes |
| quote: | Originally posted by xtractorfan
The "war" on drugs cannot be won. |
so phukin true.
-ryan |
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| randyval |
| quote: | Originally posted by flavdave
Oh, really? |
no more dangerious than swiming or rock climing or driving, i lost a few good friends to car accedents, none of my friends have died from drug use (knocks on wood).
fact is there are dangers everywhere, the best anyone can do is take steps to be safe, but like in any situation the unexpected can happen.
addiction is a bitch, but not everybody is prone to be an addict.
if your an addict your an addict be it alchol chocloate, cocain, gambling, work, adrenalin rush from extreme sports, anyone of these things can ruin a life. even world of warcraft has killed, so should all these things be banned?
i personally believe no man should have a say with what i put into my body,if i want to get high it should be my choice.
its funny the way are governement would lead us to belive drugs are evil, and if i use them im sick, or an addict, no, i just like to blow off steam and get ed up once in a while, and since i dont drink, it limits my choices.
you wouldnt go skydiving without equipment and instruction,the same should be with drugs.
drugs can be used safely, but like getting the morning paper, its a risk.
hell if i wanted to be "safe", i would lock myself away and never go out, and just hope an earthquake doesnt hit ;)
i like drugs, and i have had my ups and downs, but after the hangover wears off im right as rain again.
the last 3 years i have all but stoped, but even now i still make it out for 2 good parties a year, if i didnt id go nuts. |
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| randyval |
there is an exelent documentery from the history channel
"illegal Drugs and How They Got That Way"
you might be shocked to learn our whole modern attitude towards drugs are only about 100 years old.
for instance did you know in the 80's the supreme court ruled ecstacy should not be banned, after testomony from doctors and psycologists.
well in spite of the ruling, the very next day the dea overuled the us supreme court, and made it a class 1.
defenatly worth checking out. |
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| randyval |
poverty kills waaaaaay more people than drugs, and i dont see goverements doing much about that.
i wonder why |
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| JakeC |
| quote: | Originally posted by jrbuddha
All these studies about marijuana being harmful, and having no redeeming value, medicinal or otherwise are paid for by a couple large groups:
1)Pharmaceutacal
2)Logging
3)Companies like Dow Chemical and 3M.
Pharmaceutacal groups want it kept illegal because they can't put a patent on it, or make money off of it, if you can grow your own.
The other 2 groups would stand to lose lots of money due to all the uses that hemp posseses, such as superior paper making qualities, and superior fabrics for a lesser cost to produce. |
Marijuana is harmful.
before i found out about it i was bouncy and happy.
nowadays im tired most of the day and i have even developed a slight speech impedement due to the weed dumbing down my brain. |
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| Ste |
| quote: | Originally posted by JakeC
Marijuana is harmful.
before i found out about it i was bouncy and happy.
nowadays im tired most of the day and i have even developed a slight speech impedement due to the weed dumbing down my brain. |
cannabis is known to have effects on the developing teenage brain if smoked continuously from an early age...
however i dont know too many people who go out clubbing and have a spliff, even if this thread has taken a bit of a tangent ;) |
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| djmetatron |
again... back on subject:
| quote: | Originally posted by JasonThomas like 7 pages ago!
I was at Freaknight as well and didn't sense anything out of the norm. I just don't see how they could pull it off without people getting a whiff of it. You have "a friend in law enforcement" and you read a "report" from a "six-man team"? Please give more detail of the report; how did they make arrests? Were most of the arrests related or associated with eachother or were there separate dealers being arrested?
Also you say it's a program taking place all over the country, which means that it's a federal program, which means it would more likely be DEA agents rather than "undercover police officers". |
Seriously I think these police operations are a complete farse. The police/federal government does not have this much finesse :p. Anyone, please present some credible information on the subject.
| quote: | [b]Originally posted by JakeC]b]
Marijuana is harmful.
before i found out about it i was bouncy and happy.
nowadays im tired most of the day and i have even developed a slight speech impedement due to the weed dumbing down my brain. |
oh and.. LOLZZZ :D |
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