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The Amazing Power of Prayer ... (pg. 3)
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| Aquarian |
| It's an insult to science to even consider that something so dumb was even attempted. Why don't they pour money into something useful instead? |
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| _Ocean_Drive_ |
Science and religion go very well together, but not for something like this.
Pryaer DOES work, 'cos I've seen it happen. It's also a psycholgoical thing too, to align yourself with God.
Your own interpretation of prayer has to be understood first before you do these experiemtns (which are a complete waste of time and money). Praying for "money to fall out the sky" simply isn't going to happen. |
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| Mr. Pink |
to think that God would change the course of events strictly for YOU........"oh God, i pray that so and so happens for so and so" is lame and downright selfish.
if you even believed in a God.....you'd trust "his" judgement and let the way he "planned" out things to take its course.
now, i know all prayer isn't "oh let me get that bonus, God. Ive worked hard for it".......i know some prayers are based on very legit caring like "please let there be peace on this world"
but still.......to think there is a God that can grant this to YOU because YOU asked for it.........meh, i find it absurd.
i say, be happy with what you have.........be blessed with what you got.......
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| occrider |
Ah, sorry I missed your reply.
| quote: | Originally posted by ierxium
Probably there was some type of misunderstanding between the gods. The god of the christian thought the gods of the other religions were going to take care of it. But nobody cares about that type of thinking and it's irrelevant.
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Huh? Hehe probably? Probably? Yes, my sources tell me that the Buddhist God, was assigned to the task, but got sick at the last minute and his backup, the Wicca god, was out drunk, so nobody got around towards doing it. Omnisience is so overrated.
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They did not ignore the prayers the prayers were praying, they simply did not take them into account. No god would be controlled by an insignificant human experiement. We are at their mercy. It would never be the other way around, this is assuming a god or gods exist/s.
Applying some rules of logic: If the gods were aware of the praying, then they were also aware of what went on with the experiment and all that was said among those in control.
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I'm afraid your logic puts you in a catch-22. True omnipotence would disregard any and all consideration of our puny actions to comprehend the existence of a higher power. Because why would it matter? If god ignores prayers because it's part of a study, than he is indeed at our mercy. We can simply do studies of every single prayer and god, by default, can't grant them because then he'll be at our mercy.
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How can a person pray for someone that s/he knows little about? Sickness itself is not sufficient. Whether the prayer works or not depends on other factors too. Amount of sins by patient or of the faithful doing the prayers can be important. Wouldn't a person put more effort when praying for a loved one than when praying for some ill person in a picture?
Did these Jews, Christians, Muslims and Buddhists knew about the experiment? That also is important, maybe it was on the article, possibly didn't catch it. What about the religion of the patient? What if there was conflict between the religion of the patient and the religion of the prayer?
Gods do listen to the prayers. Whether or not they choose to take some action is something else. Just because a y child goes and asks x person for money does not guarantee that y will get it, even if the money is intended for a person y knows little about. Another thing, y would put more effort asking for money if it's for a loved one.
The London bombing is a different situation. The gods are aware of it and it's not an experiment.
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Hey guess what? Not many people know this, but I can telepathically move objects with my penis. It was a power granted to me by the easter bunny in exchange for his visits every Tuesday to have some tea with me. I would show you, but my power doesn't work in your presence. Maybe you just don't believe in the easter bunny enough? I think you need x more belief points than maybe you can see it. Can you see the easter bunny when he visits me? You can try but I probably have tea with him in another dimension while a clone takes my place in this dimension. So you probably wouldn't notice a thing.
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That's the beauty about any religion, you could just speculate because the truth will not be known in our existence. That's what was done with the experiment, which is just absurd.
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Yes well that's the beauty of my telepathic penis moving powers. You can speculate as to whether I actually have these powers or not, but you'll never know the truth. Any attempts to prove me wrong are just experiments which would simply be absurd because my penis would know better. |
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| jupiterone |
In my opinion....you cant really disprove the power of prayer and religious healing by scientific study... Just because these people went out and studied what prayer can do doesnt mean it doesnt exist.
Aswell as saying we came from a single cell. Im very religios so this is all my opinion, bash me all you want. Everything has an origin even the bible might have its weaknesses and flaws and holes but so does science. It is pretty much all based on belief, religious people wont technically go out and change their belief from religion to scientific examination |
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| Moongoose |
| quote: | Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
Pryaer DOES work, 'cos I've seen it happen. It's also a psycholgoical thing too, to align yourself with God. |
Oh you have seen it have you? So whad did you see happen that you are so convinced prayer does work? Becouse currently all the evidence points to the fact that it does not |
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| _Ocean_Drive_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moongoose
Oh you have seen it have you? So whad did you see happen that you are so convinced prayer does work? Becouse currently all the evidence points to the fact that it does not |
I prayed that there would be a sneering, provocative little e on this thread... |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by jupiterone
In my opinion....you cant really disprove the power of prayer and religious healing by scientific study... Just because these people went out and studied what prayer can do doesnt mean it doesnt exist.
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Right just like you can't disprove the existence of the easter bunny ... or santa clause ... or the fact that I'm superman. So, according to that set of standards we can't ever disprove anything we can't prove. |
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| prolikewhoa |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Yes well that's the beauty of my telepathic penis moving powers. You can speculate as to whether I actually have these powers or not, but you'll never know the truth. Any attempts to prove me wrong are just experiments which would simply be absurd because my penis would know better. |
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i'd say that warrants a touché from whoever you responded to |
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| {b.s.e.} |
| Reiki would be a more acceptable form of 'prayer', if anyone was considering any of this nonsense to begin with. :wtf: |
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| sooper |
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