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The Amazing Power of Prayer ... (pg. 4)
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| Psy-T |
| occrider, i hope you use your telekinetic abilities for good only :stongue: |
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| ierxium |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Ah, sorry I missed your reply.
Huh? Hehe probably? Probably? Yes, my sources tell me that the Buddhist God, was assigned to the task, but got sick at the last minute and his backup, the Wicca god, was out drunk, so nobody got around towards doing it. Omnisience is so overrated.
I'm afraid your logic puts you in a catch-22. True omnipotence would disregard any and all consideration of our puny actions to comprehend the existence of a higher power. Because why would it matter? If god ignores prayers because it's part of a study, than he is indeed at our mercy. We can simply do studies of every single prayer and god, by default, can't grant them because then he'll be at our mercy.
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Taking advantage of the ill just for a study? That's cruel. Again, assuming god/s exist/s, humans will never be at the same level as him/her/it/them. People pray hoping that someone somewhere will make something happen. It's based on hope. Science can't measure praying or hoping.
How does refusing to participate in a study proves that a god is at our mercy? I don't understand. And you can't do studies on every single prayer and god, not all would want to participate, except for those seeking something in return, like sex or money.
| quote: | Hey guess what? Not many people know this, but I can telepathically move objects with my penis. It was a power granted to me by the easter bunny in exchange for his visits every Tuesday to have some tea with me. I would show you, but my power doesn't work in your presence. Maybe you just don't believe in the easter bunny enough? I think you need x more belief points than maybe you can see it. Can you see the easter bunny when he visits me? You can try but I probably have tea with him in another dimension while a clone takes my place in this dimension. So you probably wouldn't notice a thing.
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How can you know that it would not work in my presence? Wouldn't a study be necessary to prove this? I hope you're not spending a lot on tea.
Now, if the group of believers have seen the results of the power of your member, then perhaps you are right. What if one day one of those witnesses comes and asks you to move a chair in a picture. Would you do it if you knew it was part of an experiment? And what if other people also went to another guy with a powerful penis asking for the same thing? There are other people out there just like you, powerful penis. And these people have followers too. But they don't believe in you or your story about the tea and the easter bunny.
| quote: | | Yes well that's the beauty of my telepathic penis moving powers. You can speculate as to whether I actually have these powers or not, but you'll never know the truth. Any attempts to prove me wrong are just experiments which would simply be absurd because my penis would know better. |
You're right about the penis. There's no way of proving the power of it, specially for me since you said it doesn't work in my presence.
It's all about speculation. So because I'll never know the truth about your powers I can say that... there isn't a penis at all. And that also is a reasonable speculation, right?
Wait, a speculation is not enough. I will do an experiment. I'm going to pray that your penis moves my mp3 player from my bed to the top of my speaker. And to be fair with your penis, which might be occupied doing other stuff, the study will last 2 days. Mp3 player is not heavy and the distance it needs to travel is not a lot. Good luck. |
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| kr00t0n |
| quote: | Originally posted by ierxium
It's all about speculation. So because I'll never know the truth about your powers I can say that... there isn't a penis at all. And that also is a reasonable speculation, right?
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The main difference is that he can (hopefully) show you his penis.
Other such things arent as forthcoming (*chuckles immaturely*) :) |
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| Ory |
Well well well... a thread about religion. I don't know why I even bother, but... what the hell.
So let's see... what's the point in religion? Hope? Wow, can't handle standing on your own feet? Need divine intervention to survive? Bull. I don't know why the hell people bother speculating about something that might not exist, because guess what, the universe is (possibly, and probably) so much more than what humans can comprehend. We will never find out the complete and utter truth, because its greatness would probably fry our brains. Or something like that.
All religion is, is organized insanity. Does people listen to a random hobo who claims he saw an extraterrestrial being while trying to build a ladder to the moon? No. But for some strange reason, people like to believe scriptures about a bearded man performing miracles two thousand years ago. What's the difference between the two? Think about that for a second. They're both "prophets" in a sense, but there's just something plausible about the bearded dude, isn't there? Just because it all happened so long ago, right? Oh, and because everyone else believes it, so I it MUST be true. People are really dense.
I realise what I said is so very, very obvious, but most people just don't bloody get it. Which leads me to believe that 99% of the world population is ing retarded. But let's not get into that.
I'd like to say I'm not in any way anti-believing-in-a-higher-being, it's just that people have made it into such a ing stupid thing. So usually, I just tend to ignore it. If there is a God, fine, there's so much I'll never know anyway, so it.
Shiieeet, I hope I don't get banned again for all this. :o :haha: |
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| Ory |
| Oh, and I think that study is ing bull, too. It's human science, therefore it's bound to be flawed. |
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| Orbax |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ory
Oh, and I think that study is ing bull, too. It's human science, therefore it's bound to be flawed. |
Isnt that kind of a "nothing is perfect so dont base anything on anything" approach?
What degree of precision is required for something not to be bull |
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| Googooly |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ory
Well well well... a thread about religion. I don't know why I even bother, but... what the hell.
So let's see... what's the point in religion? Hope? Wow, can't handle standing on your own feet? Need divine intervention to survive? Bull. I don't know why the hell people bother speculating about something that might not exist, because guess what, the universe is (possibly, and probably) so much more than what humans can comprehend. We will never find out the complete and utter truth, because its greatness would probably fry our brains. Or something like that.
All religion is, is organized insanity. Does people listen to a random hobo who claims he saw an extraterrestrial being while trying to build a ladder to the moon? No. But for some strange reason, people like to believe scriptures about a bearded man performing miracles two thousand years ago. What's the difference between the two? Think about that for a second. They're both "prophets" in a sense, but there's just something plausible about the bearded dude, isn't there? Just because it all happened so long ago, right? Oh, and because everyone else believes it, so I it MUST be true. People are really dense.
I realise what I said is so very, very obvious, but most people just don't bloody get it. Which leads me to believe that 99% of the world population is ing retarded. But let's not get into that.
I'd like to say I'm not in any way anti-believing-in-a-higher-being, it's just that people have made it into such a ing stupid thing. So usually, I just tend to ignore it. If there is a God, fine, there's so much I'll never know anyway, so it.
Shiieeet, I hope I don't get banned again for all this. :o :haha: |
how long you been banned? |
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| Lepanto |
| Very interesting read. I myself pray from time to time. Doesn't always work. But faith itself helps people, and it does for me. |
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| Ory |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
Isnt that kind of a "nothing is perfect so dont base anything on anything" approach?
What degree of precision is required for something not to be bull |
Biology isn't bull. Non-astrophysics isn't bull. But when people start talking about space and supernatural powers like they actually know , then it's gone too far. |
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| ierxium |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ory
Well well well... a thread about religion. I don't know why I even bother, but... what the hell.
So let's see... what's the point in religion? Hope? Wow, can't handle standing on your own feet? Need divine intervention to survive? Bull. I don't know why the hell people bother speculating about something that might not exist, because guess what, the universe is (possibly, and probably) so much more than what humans can comprehend. We will never find out the complete and utter truth, because its greatness would probably fry our brains. Or something like that.
All religion is, is organized insanity. Does people listen to a random hobo who claims he saw an extraterrestrial being while trying to build a ladder to the moon? No. But for some strange reason, people like to believe scriptures about a bearded man performing miracles two thousand years ago. What's the difference between the two? Think about that for a second. They're both "prophets" in a sense, but there's just something plausible about the bearded dude, isn't there? Just because it all happened so long ago, right? Oh, and because everyone else believes it, so I it MUST be true. People are really dense.
I realise what I said is so very, very obvious, but most people just don't bloody get it. Which leads me to believe that 99% of the world population is ing retarded. But let's not get into that.
I'd like to say I'm not in any way anti-believing-in-a-higher-being, it's just that people have made it into such a ing stupid thing. So usually, I just tend to ignore it. If there is a God, fine, there's so much I'll never know anyway, so it.
Shiieeet, I hope I don't get banned again for all this. :o :haha: |
You, as part of a modern society, are influenced one way or another. So even you, great one, can't stand on your own two feet.
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| enferno |
i view prayer as a placebo.
my favorite oxymoron is 'religious logic' |
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| Ory |
| quote: | Originally posted by ierxium
You, as part of a modern society, are influenced one way or another. So even you, great one, can't stand on your own two feet.
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Still, I only rely on things I can trust. |
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