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Paul Van Dyk - Politics of Dancing 2 (September 05) (pg. 19)
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| Reactic |
| quote: | Originally posted by RebeL9
oh no not another one who have the opinion "if you don't like this then don't post here". Stop with this bitching.
This is a democracy you know. They are both positive and negative about things. |
wtf, post whatever you want. its good to post your opinion, I don't post only positive things, but if you look at most "reviews" on this cd, you get the opinion, they all judge the cd by its playlist without having heard it before. |
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| Reactic |
| quote: | Originally posted by RebeL9
PVD is the DJ, he got the authority to choose from hundreds of tunes to put on this CD. And he chose some of the most played and dull tunes you can find. It's not impossible to make 2 cds with interesting and tunes which not every other dj have already whored.
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its always the same.. look at other djs, armin, tisto, ferry corsten.. show me one trance mix-cd, one thread, where people haven't said: this is old! I have heard many tunes before! its simply unfair to pvd, because he is not 100x better than the rest.
also TAs forget, that the majority out there, who isn't registered on this forum, will buy a cd without noticing, that many tunes whre played already.
last point: the cd have old tunes, but pvd have intentional chosen them! its his concept, to mix old with new I guess. why do everyone thing, a mix cd should contain only new tracks, unknown tracks? if you take all tracks into concederation, from the past, you could do a even better mix cd, than with new tracks. someone should maybe try it out, you will see, it even then could be a good mix cd. |
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| trancedanne |
& btw, why should he not choose those so called "overplayed" tunes? Is this cd just for the trance nerds? 80 % of those who buys the cd haven't even heard any of the tunes before. & the best tunes are often those "overplayed" ones. Stop adapt or "adjust" yourself too other dj's, do your own thing, that's how a smart dj thinks..
If he likes a track he put it on the cd, simple as that, only idiots don't & thinks the other way around that they are too "overplayed", so stupid.. |
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| RebeL9 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Reactic
ok, I know he can choose, but the selection is not really big! well, I think the playlist is overrated in this case.. sure, he could choose some more new tunes, but even if you have 30 unknown tunes, this doesn't mean, you have a done a good cd! pvd has really good mixing there and structure of the tunes. imo he creates very good build-ups, and then give the listeners a break.
and imo this republik cd is a bit overrated. its good, ok, but the mixing is not as good as by TPOD2, and there are some bad tracks, which don't fit into the mix. the reason, why many people haven't heard these tracks, is simply because the most people aren't into psy trance.. ok, I don't know, if someone, who is relly into psy, would recognize all tunes, but I can imagine, if you read reviews posted on a psy forum, you wouldn't get this positive coments, because they are used to it.. and now, look at TA, many users like the cd, because they haven't heard psy trance before, if they were used to it, they would look at it from another point of view.. |
j00f is not mainly a psy dj. even the progressive tunes he plays are not so well known. i would consider myself pretty updated when it comes to progressive trance. still he plays new unreleased stuff way before anyone else.
and whitelabel republic is not overrated. rather underrated. mixing is flawless and pretty damn straight considering that he goes from progressive straight to psy trance. much more challenging than playing same style from start to end.
I don't say that Whitelabel Republic is 10/10. Even J00F's two earlier Whitelabel CDs were better than this one. But still its damn nice and original compared to most other mix cds released nowadays |
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| Phortastic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Reactic
pvd has really good mixing there and structure of the tunes. imo he creates very good build-ups, and then give the listeners a break.
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dude are u ing joking or what? I havent heard this cd and hell i wont listen to it ever but by just looking at the tracklist ( i almost know every tune from it) i can tell for 100% that there is no flow in this album (at least in some parts for sure). How he jumps from progressive to trance at times is :nervous: :eek: and i cant imagine that it flows well :o |
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| toffy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Phortastic
dude are u ing joking or what? I havent heard this cd and hell i wont listen to it ever but by just looking at the tracklist ( i almost know every tune from it) i can tell for 100% that there is no flow in this album (at least in some parts for sure). How he jumps from progressive to trance at times is :nervous: :eek: and i cant imagine that it flows well :o |
Looking at your top I highly doubt you know every tune on it but ok.. lets say you do, i could be wrong. Then if you judge a cd just for the tracklist i think you are not very clever. First, cause almost all the tracks on it has been edited or remixed and finally cause what differences this cd from others is the way it is mixed, not the tracking selection.
Looking at your top again i would like to ask you if you did the same with Sasha's "Involver" cd. Didnt you listen it just looking its tracklist? Cause in a similar way ( difference is that Sasha got access to the original parts of the tracks and paul didnt), almost all the tracks on it were old or "known" and reworked by him. I am sure not, just looking for a third time at your top.
I mean, people tend to judge artists just for being of his like or not when sometimes - even into the music you cant stand - artists or djs you really hate can make a good work. For example, would anyone of the posters in this thread that dislike the cd and trance in general buy it if it were full of unknown and good tracks? My answer is not, they would just bash it for being trance cause they dont like the style. I have read reviews of pople with phrases in theirs signatures like.. "trance suxx", "i hate trance".. people that reviews it before listening.. those are invalid opinions i would say.
On the other hand, others that took a listen to it and that could at some point like it - non trance or pvd haters here please - can really state a good opinion and judge. I did listen and preorder after it cause i found CD2 really nice, not being to keen on the first one. And yeah, i had listened sets from Paul before summer and many tracks are the same but listening to them in a good quality and so perfect mixed is a pleasure i would like to keep forever.
I cant agree more with the idea that this cd will look fresh for a lot of people that dont check tracklist frequently. Nowdays that music is on p2p months before released, a compilation with a high % of tracks unknown for us is something just an artist album can get.
Shouldnt be compared for the tracklist with TPOD1 either - althought the idea is the same - but with trance compilations today, cause obviously are in different times. And you know what? I would bet that if TPOD1 would be released today, those haters that claim to have liked it when it was relled years ago would be here bashing and bashing and bashing and bashing again..
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| Phortastic |
^where u make a huge mistake in your argument is thinking i dont like trance. Well u are way off man. I like trance, mostly trance from the past i must admit but i do like some trance from this year also. But those recent trance tracks i like (its more than u think) is just not on this compilation, besides a couple of them.
Now is that my fault? No. Is it the fault of todays trance? Well, for some part i guess. But who is really the one to blame here? Yes, PVD ofcourse. But im not gonna say more about this cause like i said: i havent even listened to it. I was just giving my opinion about the flow, which sucks. And yes i can say that without listening it. How? Cause i almost know all the tracks (i know from some people who listened this album that those so claimed pvd re-edits are hard to hear at best, so dont give me that crap argument) and some just dont fit whatsoever.
And oh yeah why is it hard to believe i know almost all these tracks? They are freaking old and having no trance in my top 5 tunes doesnt make me a trance n00b.
And now im done talking about this :whip: |
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| RJOllos |
| quote: | Originally posted by Phortastic
And now im done talking about this :whip: |
Finally ... if only we could have figured out how to stop you earlier. |
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| Phortastic |
man that hurts :(
really :(
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| RJOllos |
| quote: | Originally posted by Phortastic
man that hurts :(
really :(
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I'm just messing with you.
But you'll get more respect regarding your opinions if you listen to the cds before commenting on them ... in general ... i suspect. |
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| RebeL9 |
| I think the main reason why people dislike this CD is because of the big dissapointment when it comes to the tunes PVD put on it. He promised like what, 20 tunes? Which never made it to the CD. Where are all the unreleased NU Nrg stuff he plays in his sets which didn't make it here? |
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| Phortastic |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJOllos
I'm just messing with you.
But you'll get more respect regarding your opinions if you listen to the cds before commenting on them ... in general ... i suspect. |
fair enough. And i agree with you 100%. But at least i admit i havent even listened it. Im just pointing out why i havent listened it and why i never will ;) Thats all :) |
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