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AwakenedAddict
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Originally posted by joinT
within NA I can imagine.. as it should be for a city like Toronto.. but Europe and Asia DESTROY us.. Look at London or Hong Kong, they blow Toronto out of the water..


When joo are right joo are right ;)

Problem is demand to construct a vast, effective public transit system, like the ones in Europe and Asia, is driven by a couple of factors which are lacking in N.American in general, and Toronto specifically.

1) Dense population (Toronto is sort of dense, but not even close to the degree of London or Hong Kong.)

2) The age of the city. Toronto was planned many hundreds of years after the before-mentioned cities. Consequently the downtown areas feature wider and straighter boulevards which can carry auto traffic much more effectively, reducing demand for public transportation.

3) N. Americans love their cars like no other people in the world. They drive everywhere!
joinT
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Originally posted by AwakenedAddict
When joo are right joo are right ;)

Problem is demand to construct a vast, effective public transit system, like the ones in Europe and Asia, is driven by a couple of factors which are lacking in N.American in general, and Toronto specifically.

1) Dense population (Toronto is sort of dense, but not even close to the degree of London or Hong Kong.)

2) The age of the city. Toronto was planned many hundreds of years after the before-mentioned cities. Consequently the downtown areas feature wider and straighter boulevards which can carry auto traffic much more effectively, reducing demand for public transportation.

3) N. Americans love their cars like no other people in the world. They drive everywhere!


haha.. you are probably the best person on the board to speak of this..

Toronto may not be dense, but I bet we get close to the amount of human traffic downtown M-F 9-5 as do many other major cities.. If someone could get to work from union station without having to resort to 1+ buses, I bet many more people would take the GO bus into union.

and there's no room for any more subways downtown..
VERTiG0
Didn't end up grabbing that BMW, eh Tristan?
joinT
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Originally posted by VERTiG0
Didn't end up grabbing that BMW, eh Tristan?


negatory.. '01 protege i think..
AwakenedAddict
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Originally posted by joinT
If someone could get to work from union station without having to resort to 1+ buses, I bet many more people would take the GO bus into union.

and there's no room for any more subways downtown..


Problem with the GO bus system is that it is funded by the province and not the city of Toronto. The GTA transit system would be much better if all the municipalities shared transit funding from the gov't. However, each municipality funds it's own system so there is little money/incentive for municipalities to make their transit systems highly connected to that of Toronto and little incentive for the TTC to make connecting routes from municipalities into downtown.

Ohh, and there is always room for new subways, you just have to knock some buildings down :D (ain't gonna happen). Also since the sheppard line was such a fiscal disaster, the gov't is very hesitant to zone space/accept proposals for new subway lines. Right now they are concentrating on more buses in Toronto and between the municipalities.
Crib
I haven't had any problems with the TTC lately...I've only had bad days when drunk...punishment I guess :whip:
AwakenedAddict
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Originally posted by Crib
I haven't had any problems with the TTC lately...I've only had bad days when drunk...punishment I guess :whip:


Yeh, I never have problems with the TTC, but I live midtown... North of sheppard, west of bathurst, east of bayview (ish) service starts lacking.
joinT
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Originally posted by AwakenedAddict
North of sheppard, east of bayview (ish)...


Jayx1
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Originally posted by AwakenedAddict
Seriously, the TTC is one of the best North American transit systems. .


The key words here being North American.

But thats like comparing polished turd to unrefined crap.
Matt
hurray for living on campus

bass drive
I often had to wait too much for the St Claire street cars. After like 20-30 mins, 2 or 3 of them would show up together :whip:
b4k-oz
TTC = TAKE THE CAR

Hahahaha this transit nightmare is enough to drive a non-driver to get their drivers licence :p
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