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| Mr. Pink |
| quote: | Originally posted by Palladium
as i said before...i hate puerto ricans cuz of the reggaeton...not for steal our girls...entendiste puto javi ??:mad: |
mira maldito, no todos los puertorriquenos le gustan el gasolina, sabes?:mad:
hijo de puta ;) |
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| The_One |
I don't like reggaeton music either but I do like girls who dance to reggaeton music. Thank you Puerto Rico Thank you!
I'd also like to take this time to thank Univision for giving us such quality programming full of scantily clad hispanic women. I <3 Claudia Molina and the girls of Primer Impacto. |
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| Palladium |
| somebody explains U.S. - Puerto Rico relation :conf: |
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| igottaknow |
| quote: | Originally posted by The_One
I'd also like to take this time to thank Univision for giving us such quality programming full of scantily clad hispanic women. I <3 Claudia Molina and the girls of Primer Impacto. |
me dos |
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| Mr. Pink |
| quote: | Originally posted by Palladium
somebody xplain U.S. - Puerto Rico connection :conf: |
.......the US conquered puerto rico from Spain during the Spanish American war.
We were a good territory to have based on our geographical location in the caribbean. Military bases were implanted in Puerto Rico, we now have 2 active bases(about 4-5 have been located within PR until the Vieques bombing started to change things).
We're a common wealth and I have no idea why the United States maintains a hold on us. We have 3 political parties:
-the numbers are rough estimates-
1) PNP which are essentially the one's who want to become a state. (composed at around 45% of the population)
2) The Populares (popular party)....ultimately wants things how they are, commonwealth status.. (composed at around the low 40%'s)
3) The Independentistas (independent party), which is well below any sort of number advantage.
In two votes, one of them in '93, and the other i forget........ the populares and independent parties combined forces to keep it a commonwealth seeing as how it had no chance of reaching independence, and the independentistas were NOT going to allow the United States to suck us into their empire.
So we're a commonwealth.
why- i have no clue. |
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| ierxium |
| quote: | Originally posted by bass drive
I think this thread title should be Latino not Latin
btw, a question to latin americans.
are all the latin americans considered latinos or just the ones with mostly Euro background? |
You missed my post. Here it is again:
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Long post:
Latin
n.
1.
A- The Indo-European language of the ancient Latins and Romans and the most important cultural language of western Europe until the end of the 17th century.
B- The Latin language and literature from the end of the third century B.C. to the end of the second century A.D.
2.
A- A member of a Latin people, especially a native or inhabitant of Latin America.
B- A Latino or Latina.
3. A native or resident of ancient Latium.
adj.
1. Of, relating to, or composed in Latin: a Latin scholar; Latin verse.
2.
A- Of or relating to ancient Rome, its people, or its culture.
B- Of or relating to Latium, its people, or its culture.
3. Of or relating to the languages that developed from Latin, such as Italian, French, Spanish, and Portuguese, or to the peoples that speak them.
4.
A- Of or relating to the peoples, countries, or cultures of Latin America.
B- Of or relating to Latinos or their culture.
5. Of or relating to the Roman Catholic Church.
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latino, na
1. adj. Del Lacio o relativo a esta antigua región italiana: derecho latino. También s.
2. Relativo al latín o propio de esta lengua o su cultura: el verbo latino.
3. Relativo a la iglesia romana o de Occidente: ritos latinos.
4. Se dice de los pueblos de Europa y América en que se hablan lenguas derivadas del latín, de los hablantes de estas lenguas y de lo relativo a ellos: América latina. Apl. a personas, también s.: los latinos comparten una misma idiosincrasia.
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Latino/a
n. pl. La·ti·nos
1- Latin American.
2- A person of Hispanic, especially Latin-American, descent, often one living in the United States. See Usage Note at Hispanic.
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Hispanic
adj.
1. Of or relating to Spain or Spanish-speaking Latin America.
2. Of or relating to a Spanish-speaking people or culture.
n.
1. A Spanish-speaking person.
2. A U.S. citizen or resident of Latin-American or Spanish descent.
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Note from dictionary.com(Look at the text as it should be here): Though often used interchangeably in American English, Hispanic and Latino are not identical terms, and in certain contexts the choice between them can be significant. Hispanic, from the Latin word for “Spain,” has the broader reference, potentially encompassing all Spanish-speaking peoples in both hemispheres and emphasizing the common denominator of language among communities that sometimes have little else in common. Latino--which in Spanish means "Latin" but which as an English word is probably a shortening of the Spanish word latinoamericano--refers more exclusively to persons or communities of Latin American origin. Of the two, only Hispanic can be used in referring to Spain and its history and culture; a native of Spain residing in the United States is a Hispanic, not a Latino, and one cannot substitute Latino in the phrase the Hispanic influence on native Mexican cultures without garbling the meaning.
In practice, however, this distinction is of little significance when referring to residents of the United States, most of whom are of Latin American origin and can theoretically be called by either word. ·A more important distinction concerns the sociopolitical rift that has opened between Latino and Hispanic in American usage. For a certain segment of the Spanish-speaking population, Latino is a term of ethnic pride and Hispanic a label that borders on the offensive. According to this view, Hispanic lacks the authenticity and cultural resonance of Latino, with its Spanish sound and its ability to show the feminine form Latina when used of women. Furthermore, Hispanic--the term used by the U.S. Census Bureau and other government agencies--is said to bear the stamp of an Anglo establishment far removed from the concerns of the Spanish-speaking community. While these views are strongly held by some, they are by no means universal, and the division in usage seems as related to geography as it is to politics, with Latino widely preferred in California and Hispanic the more usual term in Florida and Texas. Even in these regions, however, usage is often mixed, and it is not uncommon to find both terms used by the same writer or speaker.
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Now, Latin America, what countries are we speaking about here? Let's take a look:
Latin America is a cultural region of the American continents consisting of countries where the official and predominantly-used language is Spanish or Portuguese, both Latin-based (Romance languages). These countries are wholly situated south of the United States. Some people also include non-independent states or regions, like South Florida because of its heavy Latin American immigrant population. When including only independent countries, it corresponds to Mexico (in North America), most of Central America, most of South America and the countries of the Caribbean where Spanish or Portuguese is spoken.
Latin America is the American equivalent of Latin Europe.
Latin America is divided into 17 independent countries and several dependent political units. Brazil is by far the largest country in Latin America both in area and in population. It occupies more than 40 percent of the region's land area and has about a third of its people. Curiously, its official language (Portuguese) is unique in Latin America, as it is only spoken there.
Latin America is made up of the following countries:
Argentina
Bolivia
Brazil
Chile
Colombia
Costa Rica
Cuba
Dominican Republic
Ecuador
El Salvador
Guatemala
Haiti
Honduras
Mexico
Nicaragua
Panama
Paraguay
Peru
Uruguay
Venezuela
And the following dependencies:
-To France
French Guyana
Guadeloupe
Martinique
-To the United States
Puerto Rico
Link for more important info
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So you know Brazil is in Latin America, but let me add more, just becuase I don't like the term Latin America.
Ibero-America is a term used to refer the group of countries in America that were colonies of Spain and Portugal.
The reference is to the Iberian Peninsula, where Spain and Portugal are. Beside these European nations, Iberoamerica is formed by all Spanish-speaking countries in America plus Brazil (Portuguese-speaking).
Since the 1990s these countries, following the urging of King Juan Carlos of Spain, began coordinating their efforts through summits held every second year.
Link
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More fun:
America
- A continent or set of continents and islands (the Americas) between the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, usually subdivided into:
-North America
-Central America and the Caribbean
-South America
- The United States of America. In the United States, this usage and its adjective form is overwhelming and pervasive. It is, however, contested, especially in Latin America. See Use of the word American and Alternative words for American.
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My thoughts:
Am I Latin? I don't like the definition. I still think the word refers to the dead language and not to a latinoamericano/a. So no, I'm not a dead language. I could care less about the fact that people used this term to refer to people from Latinoamérica. I don't. Simple as that.
Am I a Hispanic? According to the definition, yes.
Am I a latino? """"""""", Yes.
Am I an American? """"""""", Yes.
Do I like any of these terms? No.
Another thing, I don't like 'Latinoamérica' or 'Latin America'. If I was to choose a good term to describe the place, I would go for something like Indoíberoafroamerica. But even that is not right because it includes something that might not apply to some and might exclude something that does apply to others.
I just don't like grouping people. Don't get me wrong, I understand that it may sometimes be helpful. But it can also be confusing. What happens when you see a 6'0" blonde with blue eyes walking down some street in your country. This blonde is attractive and has captured your attention. Other people around you, just like you, take the time to admire the beauty walking by. You want to make a move before the others do. You may actually have a shot unlike some of the others around you. So let's just say the country we're speaking of is US of A, just for the hell of it, would you say the guy walking by is latin or latino at first glance? It's unlikely. Now, if when you read 6'0" blonde with blue eyes, you inmediately thought I was speaking of a girl, I can't help you and you have a problem, your penis is faster than your mind. Let's assume you see the same guy in Mexico. It's very likely that guy will be considered American or gringo, excuse the use of the term, just because of his appearance. I'm not making a good point here. Damn it! Mind is not responding as it should! No drunk threads to post on! Getting back on track, the man in the example was born in Colombia and is a mute, so you have no way of knowing what country he's from unless he's wearing a shirt of his national soccer team. And he moved to Canada before his first birthday but his parents are from Europe. So you see, it's a hard task to identify someone's background.
Anyway, don't mind me and do continue the appreciation. :) |
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| igottaknow |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr. Pink
.......the US conquered puerto rico from Spain during the Spanish American war.
We were a good territory to have based on our geographical location in the caribbean. Military bases were implanted in Puerto Rico, we now have 2 active bases(about 4-5 have been located within PR until the Vieques bombing started to change things).
We're a common wealth and I have no idea why the United States maintains a hold on us. We have 3 political parties:
-the numbers are rough estimates-
1) PNP which are essentially the one's who want to become a state. (composed at around 45% of the population)
2) The Populares (popular party)....ultimately wants things how they are, commonwealth status.. (composed at around the low 40%'s)
3) The Independentistas (independent party), which is well below any sort of number advantage.
In two votes, one of them in '93, and the other i forget........ the populares and independent parties combined forces to keep it a commonwealth seeing as how it had no chance of reaching independence, and the independentistas were NOT going to allow the United States to suck us into their empire.
So we're a commonwealth.
why- i have no clue. |
Just a guess but the US probably wants to have its cake and eat it too. That is maintain a strategic military base without incurring any economic liability. PR probably has a high unemployment rate and underdeveloped infrastructure. Give PR independence could open up the door to insecurity. The most likely reason is status quo rules. Who in the US is going to stick their neck out give independance or stateship when there isn't any advantage for the US. In addition PR citzens are dead locked so no matter what you do half of the ppl are going to be pissed. |
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| Danny Ocean |
| quote: | Originally posted by BadBadNeil
just read up on it seems like a pretty good location, across from cozumel and just south of cancun. Looks pretty small though, have you been there? |
its very bohemian, really cool place to trip (on anything really) in.
good drug scene, nudist beaches, music by the beach, hotels, lots of european girls. |
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| DaveSZ |
| quote: | Originally posted by stren
btw, there is a typo in the thread title >apprecation |
I didn't notice that, but I did spell it correctly within my first post.:) |
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| DaveSZ |
| quote: | Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
but of course!!! hehe.
i guess i don't look it much:conf: |
The blonde hair threw me off.
What Mr. Pink said is true.
We come in all shades, eye colors, hair colors, etc. |
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| Mr. Pink |
| quote: | Originally posted by igottaknow
Just a guess but the US probably wants to have its cake and eat it too. That is maintain a strategic military base without incurring any economic liability. PR probably has a high unemployment rate and underdeveloped infrastructure. Give PR independence could open up the door to insecurity. The most likely reason is status quo rules. Who in the US is going to stick their neck out give independance or stateship when there isn't any advantage for the US. In addition PR citzens are dead locked so no matter what you do half of the ppl are going to be pissed. |
your logic is good.
maybe not completely right, but the end product of whatever is going on is definitely leaving MORE than half of the people pissed :wtf:
and it is getting worse.:( |
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| BadBadNeil |
| there where a lot of people without jobs when i was there in july and at least to me it seemed as though there were a lot of poor from San Juan to where we lived with my grandfather in Aguada. Don't know if this is any affect from being a commonwealth though, seems to me I see very little American influence there other than the retail stores. |
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