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racism in russia (pg. 4)
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| Cal |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
I have no idea what it is you carry on about :haha: |
Well don't feel bad, brains isn't everything, I bet you have many other redeeming qualities.
Anyway, I'll try to use smaller words the next time I post something here. |
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| Lepanto |
guess it's just me ;)
| quote: | Originally posted by NYCTrancefan
You are just as retarded as I thought you were from many of your other posts here, that I usually ignore. Keep your dirty opinions to yourself or there are a few other links around the web that I can point you to that welcome such scum. Seek help bro, you need a lot of it. Your statements are tactless and pure pondscum. As Lepanto stated this has nothing to do with the subject at hand, get a clue, it might alleviate some of your blissful ignorance of other people. |
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| Cal |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
guess it's just me ;) |
Well actually his reason for reacting like that is the lack of control of his emotions. Which in fact perfectly proves my point about our baser instincts ruling us.
Your reason for failing to understand is, I would think, the same reason why you failed to notice that Cadmium is mentioned twice in the your sig's list. A pattern is definitely emerging.
EDIT - post #500! w00t!! lol I feel like like such a nerd. |
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| JM |
oh.
>JM< |
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| Lepanto |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cal
Well actually his reason for reacting like that is the lack of control of his emotions. Which in fact perfectly proves my point about our baser instincts ruling us.
Your reason for failing to understand is, I would think, the same reason why you failed to notice that Cadmium is mentioned twice in the your sig's list. A pattern is definitely emerging.
EDIT - post #500! w00t!! lol I feel like like such a nerd. |
Yes, obviously you know him from first hand experience. Dumbass. And I didn't make the sig you pompous mutt :).
Russia:
Russian 79.8%, Tatar 3.8%, Ukrainian 2%, Bashkir 1.2%, Chuvash 1.1%, Kazak 0.9%, Uzbek 0.6%
other or unspecified 12.1% (2002 census)
the Ukraine:
Ukrainian 77.8%, Russian 17.3%, Belarusian 0.6%, Moldovan 0.5%, Crimean Tatar 0.5%, Bulgarian 0.4%, Hungarian 0.3%, Romanian 0.3%, Polish 0.3%, Jewish 0.2%, other 1.8% (2001 census)
clearly it's the same :clown: |
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| Cal |
Hey don't take out your frustrations on me.
It's not my fault you are that stupid. |
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| metalgearsolid |
| Racism in Russia does not surprise me. White Russian's can't even get along with one another. |
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| HardTranceProd |
| quote: | Originally posted by metalgearsolid
Racism in Russia does not surprise me. White Russian's can't even get along with one another. |
It's true, but especially so in this country (US).
I don't know what it is about Russian-Americans. Maybe the hardships of immmigration. Maybe the importance of material things in America. Whatever it is, there's a lot of bitchiness and arrogance in their communities, unfortunately.
The Russians who actually live in Russia/Ukraine are different. |
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| Cal |
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
It's true, but especially so in this country (US).
I don't know what it is about Russian-Americans. Maybe the hardships of immmigration. Maybe the importance of material things. Whatever it is, there's a lot of bitchiness and arrogance in their communities, unfortunately.
The Russians who actually live in Russia/Ukraine are different. |
It's due to disillusionment. Yeah maybe it's easier to make money and and enjoy a higher standard of living but that's not going to matter much if the people here are cold and uncaring. I'm sick of looking at faces that only smile with their mouths and not with their eyes. I'm sick of people asking me how I am when they don't really give a . I'm sick of having nothing to do on a weekday night because all of my canadian friends like to stay in and watch Prison Break or some other garbage. I'm sick of seeing fat ugly women everywhere. The other day there was a situation, and one of my closest friends, a guy I've known for 10 years, told me that if I'm ever involved in a fight, he only got my back if he thinks I'm in the right. We are not friends anymore.
All this after living in a country where your friends are a like a wall for you. Where your family will take care of you no matter what happens. Where if someone shows affection for you they actually mean it.
As soon I get my BA I'm ing off back to Europe. |
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| HardTranceProd |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cal
It's due to disillusionment. Yeah maybe it's easier to make money and and enjoy a higher standard of living but that's not going to matter much if the people here are cold and uncaring. I'm sick of looking at faces that only smile with their mouths and not with their eyes. I'm sick of people asking me how I am when they don't really give a . I'm sick of having nothing to do on a weekday night because all of my canadian friends like to stay in and watch Prison Break or some other garbage. I'm sick of seeing fat ugly women everywhere. The other day there was a situation, and one of my closest friends, a guy I've known for 10 years, told me that if I'm ever involved in a fight, he only got my back if he thinks I'm in the right. We are not friends anymore.
All this after living in a country where your friends are a like a wall for you. Where your family will take care of you no matter what happens. Where if someone shows affection for you they actually mean it.
As soon I get my BA I'm ing off back to Europe. |
All true,
Also you're missing one important point, the culture of North America is extremely cliquish. There are cliques everywhere and everything is based on them. From high school to college to life in the adult world.
I would say that cliques are nowhere near as important or noticeable anywhere else.
When immigrants arrive here they learn this culture of cliques very quickly. The girls become standoffish and arrogant, the guys become insecure and therefore macho. |
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| HardTranceProd |
BTW guys,
Read this New York Times article about young Russian-Americans living and dating in Brooklyn:
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From Russia, With Love and Ambivalence
By JENNIFER BLEYER
Published: April 24, 2005 in the New York Times
ALEKSEY PETRUSHIN plays a good hand. His face is handsome, his flirtation bewitching, and his dance moves confident. But it's his black Mercedes Jeep that seals the deal. "A lot of Russian girls ask you straight up what you drive," he said. "It's the beginning of the process."
Mr. Petrushin hugged the wall one recent Friday night at Rasputin, a glossy nightclub on Coney Island Avenue in Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn, looking for potential paramours. He and his friend Eugene Fisher, both 26, quietly evaluated the flow of flesh squeezing past them. The bare midriffs, pronounced cleavage and immaculate makeup. The very high heels, very tight pants, and very blond hair. Mr. Petrushin offered obligatory air kisses to a few girls who were prancing by.
"Too many exes here," he muttered. "But you can't ignore them, because next thing you know, you might be going out with their sisters."
"How about them?" said Mr. Fisher, ogling two young women near the coat check.
"They're 15, maybe 16," Mr. Petrushin replied. "Just right. Just not right for us."
The sugary beat of Russian pop music gave way to the live performance of a hip-hop duo called Expo, who rapped about, among other things, financial prosperity and vodka. When they hollered, "All the Russian girls in the house, put your hands in the air!" not a single pair of female hands on the dance floor stayed down.
The party was typical of about a dozen held at clubs in the city each weekend for young Russians, mostly 20-somethings who came to United States in the late 80's and early 90's. At Rasputin, the conversations swerved effortlessly between English and Russian. Many young Russians also post profiles on popular ethnic dating Web sites like www.whimit.com. As Mr. Fisher explained, while he and his peers subscribed "to the American belief that you can be a teenager forever," they also dutifully sought out the mates their parents would approve of.
Julie Oleynik, a doe-eyed 18-year-old with long brown hair and delicate gold jewelry, agreed: "I have a lot of Italian friends, Israeli friends, Greek friends," she said. "But for dating and marrying, Russians stick with Russians."
This night, the dance floor was pumped full of machine-made smoke. Strobe lights flashed. A Britney Spears-like pop star named Akula, in from Moscow, took the stage and bopped and twirled while young fans crowded at her feet and sang along with her.
The signs of fresh pairings could be seen throughout the club, most noticeably in couples nestled in banquettes or swaying to the music. But most people remained within their close circles of friends, illustrating the challenge of beginning a romance in a community so tight-knit and familial.
Such was the case for a 26-year-old from Gravesend who would identify himself only as Ilya, and who described his feelings toward clubs like Rasputin as a love-hate relationship. "You love it because you come and see people you know," he said. "You hate it because you know everybody."
Under the disco ball's diamond lights, the traditional leitmotifs of immigrant life bubbled to the surface. The desire to simultaneously become more American and cling to one's homeland. The longing to share a common past with someone, but realizing that the someone then seems more like a sibling than a romantic interest. The attitude that one is superior to immigrants who arrived just a short time after you did, even if you all come from the same place.
Inna Shlapko, a New York University freshman, came to the United States when she was 3 and said she was now trying to reconnect with her Russian roots by visiting places like Rasputin. Waiting near the door with her girlfriends, she said that although Rasputin had been fruitless that night on the love front, she hadn't come with high hopes.
"I dated a Russian guy before," she explained. "He was normal at the beginning, and then he started hanging out with new Russian immigrants more. He turned very O.T.B." - off the boat. "I'm absolutely not O.T.B."
Putting on her coat, Ms. Shlapko shrugged off her lack of success.
"I like non-Russian guys better," she said. "They're more exotic."
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| Lepanto |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cal
Hey don't take out your frustrations on me.
It's not my fault you are that stupid. |
it's funny you use that card since like 3 people called you an idiot in this thread thus far. And according to you Russian and Ukraine is the same ;) |
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