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Iran's Ahmadinejad casts doubt on Holocaust (pg. 5)
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| Lepanto |
| quote: | Originally posted by St_Andrew
Wtf, then be little more specific what the hell you mean?! You are clearly just talking up your ass. |
stfu, already. stop following my every post, what are you gay or something? every thread, there's like 5 other people saying the same i do and you wanna quote me? damn, SCREAM Q33R
the regime he "overthrew" always claimed that his type of mentality and his own party and that of the "liberals" were 2 wings of a bird. and as i linked, people don't support him all over. and hence student protests and such (don't know if i posted that too). |
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| Purple |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
stfu, already. stop following my every post, what are you gay or something? every thread, there's like 5 other people saying the same i do and you wanna quote me? damn, SCREAM Q33R
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Actually he created this thread and you are apparantly posting in his thread.
lol
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
the regime he "overthrew" always claimed that his type of mentality and his own party and that of the "liberals" were 2 wings of a bird. and as i linked, people don't support him all over. and hence student protests and such (don't know if i posted that too). |
As with regards to bunch of small sudents group protests; they dont reflect the entire nation.
Add to this, they protest for jobs, economy .... and not against the Foreign policy of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Students protest outside Iran parliament Mon. 5 Dec 2005
Tehran, Iran, Dec. 05 – A group of pharmaceutical students protested outside Iran’s Majlis, or parliament, against a recently-ratified bill that was harmful to work.
The pharmaceutical students, all from the Medical University of Mazandaran, northern Iran, chanted slogans against the decision by Majlis to ratify the bill which takes away pharmacists rights in making executive decisions.
They complained that the new law would compromise their future jobs, while insisting that the decision would ultimately lead to a decrease of drug stores in poorer areas, significantly effecting the general population.
http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/ne...hp?storyid=4711
http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/ne...hp?storyid=4497
US media loves to sensationalize them as an uprising.
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
stfu, already. stop following my every post, what are you gay or something? every thread, there's like 5 other people saying the same i do and you wanna quote me? damn, SCREAM Q33R |
LOL
I'm fair, if someone has equally as stupid comments as you do, then well I will tell them too. Luckily enogh we haven't seen much other ppl like that though :p
I don't mind ppl with different opinions, but you are completly disregarding the obvious and are really unconsistant and make no sense at all, that's what's annoying, and that's why I also this time asked yourself to clarify what you meant, if you actually had something to back it up with, which you didn't.
| quote: | | the regime he "overthrew" always claimed that his type of mentality and his own party and that of the "liberals" were 2 wings of a bird. and as i linked, people don't support him all over. and hence student protests and such (don't know if i posted that too). |
Yeah they have protests in the country, that must mean everyone dissagrees with him! Perhaps you forgot that he were actually on one of those student gatherings when he made the "Wipe Isreal of the Map" comment. And ppl there were totally agreeing with him. Also, if ppl protested the war on Iraq before the war, did that mean that Bush didn't have a majority of the Americans with him on starting the war? Well he did.
I agree Iranian democracy isn't anywhere near good, but anyway, he got more votes than some of the more liberal candidates. So point still stands. |
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| Lepanto |
wronly enough you never address anything but some little reply i write. therefore, gay :) and it's funny how you "battle" a reply that was "inconsistent" and makes no sense.
Students don't represent a nation, eh? Oh, OK, i was under the impression they were the future of the nation and the educationed youth.
but ofcourse pakitan (w/e nation that is ;) ) will attack israel and then israel will attack poland and poland will pretend to attack canada and they will counter-attack the US or whatever your stupid theory was lol.
but this guy could surely be taken seriously with his remarks and undermining resolutions that the UN made. SMART MOVE, eh? Bush did have the majority of the nation behind him at first, and in november his approval rating was, what, 40 percent? lol |
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
wronly enough you never address anything but some little reply i write. therefore, gay :) and it's funny how you "battle" a reply that was "inconsistent" and makes no sense.
Students don't represent a nation, eh? Oh, OK, i was under the impression they were the future of the nation and the educationed youth. |
They might be, they are still not the majority of the nation though. If students in the US could decide for example, there would probably be a lot mroe things legal ;)
| quote: | but ofcourse pakitan (w/e nation that is ;) ) will attack israel and then israel will attack poland and poland will pretend to attack canada and they will counter-attack the US or whatever your stupid theory was lol.
but this guy could surely be taken seriously with his remarks and undermining resolutions that the UN made. SMART MOVE, eh? Bush did have the majority of the nation behind him at first, and in november his approval rating was, what, 40 percent? lol |
Im just saying a lot of ppl in Iran agrees with him, somehting you are clearly disagreeing with for some reason. |
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| Lepanto |
| quote: | Originally posted by St_Andrew
They might be, they are still not the majority of the nation though. If students in the US could decide for example, there would probably be a lot mroe things legal ;)
Im just saying a lot of ppl in Iran agrees with him, somehting you are clearly disagreeing with for some reason. |
Wait weren't you the one who posted that link/thread about how the people who count the votes are in some sort of cahoots with Bush? Maybe not but w/e. Point being that students and such always represent the thoughts and hopes of a nation. Even if they are not the majority, they are the future. In the US that's especially true since the young ones such as myself don't usually vote, remmember? Also, having the students voting to make drugs legal and electing the leader of the nation is two different things my friend. :)
I never said that I have a problem with people "agreeing" him, but i've seen no evidence of this. Ok, they voted for him so what? In one of my previous posts i mentioned why he was voted in. Also, his rival was a liberal something people might've thought wasn't good enough for the nation.
But here's a thought. You say that they are for him right? They believe in his crazy ideas and support him fully, right? Ah but this will make war even easier. Not so innocent are they, if they wish death on our world, huh? So, by news outlets and you claiming that he has the support of the country behind him, you're giving the UN and the USA the support they need to wage war against the nation not just the leader ;) |
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| Lopitrance |
He made these comments perhaps because he's in the same position internationally as North Korea, we might have nukes so watch out? :p
Btw, Lepanto knows everything so St-Andrew you can stfu and go play conspiracy with Kevin Costner.
(If it wasnt you that made those vote counters are in league with Bush comments then ignore my last statement, that being said my last statement applies to whichever dumbass said that) |
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| wOOt0832 |
Russia has openly declared itself the "protector of the Islamic states." The reason Iran is trying to inflame Israel is to goad them into attacking Iran so Russia will intervene and Iran will have a nuclear power on its side to compete with the US and Israel. Venezuela and China are also making a large number of business deals with Iran, particularly in the energy sector. This will develop into a further deterrent for Israel and its proxies because an attack on Iran's infrastructure would mean an attack on foreign investments in nations with powerful arms and armies. Although admittedly, it is difficult logistically to move troops from China and Russia for defense. Today, according to World Net Daily, an assassination attempt on Ahmadinejad failed on Thursday. His driver and a bodyguard were killed. To add one more piece to the puzzle, Pakistan said today, according to the Jang newsgroup, that they would stand by Iran if the US attacked.
Lastly, Wayne Madsen, a former NSA agent, has reported in detail about the CIA's funding and training of political dissident groups in the oil rich Khuzestan region, bordering Iraq, among Iranian students and the Mujaheddin-e-Khalq (MEK)group to create political dissidence, sow the seeds of a progressive movement, and in some cases, commit acts of terrorism. The MEK, in particular, is supported by Richard Perle, Michael Ledeen, Daniel Pipes, Republican Sen. Sam Brownback, and Democratic Rep. Tom Lantos. The Bush administration forged a letter a few months ago and circulated it in Khuzestan. It told Arabs they would be forcibly displaced by Persians (Iranians), which led to rioting and bombing. |
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| Lepanto |
| Yeah there's just one thing wrong with your theory. If Iran are really thinking that Israel would attack them first they are retarded. Second of all, at the moment the UN is with the US on this. So, for lack of a better phrase, THEY AIN'T GONNA DO SHIIIIIIIIT AND LIKE IT. How's that for a COR post :) |
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| wOOt0832 |
Iran doesn't believe Israel will attack them. That is why they are attempting to goad them into attacking them. If they felt Israel would attack them without provoking them, they wouldn't make such outragous inflammatory statements because doing so puts them in a dangerous light to the rest of the world, especially with the portrayal the Zionist owned press in the west will give them. It gives the world all the more reason to consider them extremist terrorists. It was a terrible PR move on their part, so Iran must feel they have nothing to lose. Ahmedinejad is also striking back against the propaganda machine that falsely claimed he was one of the hostage takers in Tehran in 1979. His base of Muslim followers are as fanatical as President Bush's fundamentalist Christian and Zionist base.
Geographically, Iran would have to go through Iraq to attack Israel with ground troops, which means the US troops are caught right in the middle. This is what Israel wants because they have used our troops as proxies for their wars for some time. They would much prefer the US to launch a preemptive strike and take care of the war for them. As a ground force, Israel doesn't have a terribly large army and geographically, it is obviously a very small country (smaller than most of our states). So in reality, your statement is correct that they will "do nothing" militarily, but the statements they are making are their action. They are also trying to win support of other Arab nations should the US/Israel join them. That would be one disasterous consequence of a US attack on Iran is that the actual insurgent population in Iraq would escalate the war on US troops dramatically in support of Iran and the US would have a war on 2 fronts in that area.
On your UN comments, yes, the Security Council is on the side of the US only because the current seat rotation in the Security Council is pro-US, thus they have the veto power. However, in the UN as a whole, they have less support than you may realize because the IAEA has released report after report with proof Iran is not enriching uranium for weapons, only for domestic power (which the country sorely needs as it has a stagnant economy based on oil and a high unemployment rate) and they have also repeatedly testified that they were allowed full disclosure access to Iran's facilites. Despite claims by the western press, IAEA president Mohammed ElBaradi has continued to reinforce his inital report with proof that Iran seeks no weapons. The reactor Iran purchased from Russia has been cleared of weapons manufacturing. Other sites revealed no trace of radioactive refined plutonium. His search for the truth was awarded the Nobel Peace prize this year. The reason you saw attacks on the character/credibility of Kofi Annan (Oil for Food scandal primarily, which his son was involved in) was because he has proposed an expansion of the Security Council to has 2 more permanent seats. The frontrunners for those seats were India and Japan. Both nations would vote against many of the US's most important issues on the Council (Iraq, Iran particularly). Japan has troops in Iraq, but has scaled down its involvement and public support for the war is minimal. Kozumi has distanced itself with the US somewhat, primarily because of US trade and outsourcing interests have increased in China and been reduced in Japan, which is China's economic nemesis in the region. India has issues because of our support of their archenemy Pakistan, which has threatened nuclear war against India many times while engaging in continued conflict over Kashmir/Jammu. This would turn the voting tide of the security council against the American/Israel junta. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| Ahmadinejad and publicity of his remarks come at a rather convenient time. I wonder if he's on the CIA payroll? PNAC... Persian gulf oil... hmmm... interesting. Me smells another war soon... |
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| hardcore trancer |
| me smells more people getting killed for no reason :whip: :whip: |
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